8GB Clip+ 16GB Micro - MediaMonkey Creating Playlist w/ Internal & External

I just bought my 8GB Clip+ and can’t wait to get using it…

I couldn’t find the specific answer to my question… I’m using Windows 7, MediaMonkey (latest Version) and have the 8gb Clip+ and 16GB card.

  1. Is there any way to have it show as one complete device in MediaMonkey? If so, how?

  2. If not, when placing music on each device (internal / external) will I be able to shuffle all and have everything play?

  3. In everyone’s experience what format is best to create playlists?  I like to have as much info as possible and I also have an iPhone that I use w/ Media Monkey and would like to keep the playlists in one format.  Any suggestions?

Thanks

1.) No.

2.) Yes.

3.) Several options; do a search. I don’t think cell phones (especially the iDrek) uses the same playlist file formats.

What about the USB setting.  When set to MSC and playlist was synced i could see the name but no songs…  when set to AUTO it work… Should I keep it to auto or will it mess me up in the future.  I’m just concerned about MP3S no audiobooks, internet, files, etc…

Don’t use the Auto Defect setting. It defaults to MTP if possible, but if not it will connect in MSC mode which can really screw you up as you never know which way it will go according to it’s mood.

MTP is for DRM-crippled content like pay-to-play CRhapsody or audio books you borrow from the library. Also you would need it if you need Windows Media Player to ‘sync’ your music to your player.

MSC mode allows your computer to see your player as just another flash-based storage device. It’s the simplest and most trouble-free mode. If you confident enough to just drag & drop the files you want to the player, use MSC.

Don’t use the Auto Defect setting. It defaults to MTP if possible, but if not it will connect in MSC mode which can really screw you up as you never know which way it will go according to it’s mood.

MTP is for DRM-crippled content like pay-to-play CRhapsody or audio books you borrow from the library. Also you would need it if you need Windows Media Player to ‘sync’ your music to your player. I don’t use Media Monkey myself, but it is very popular among people here. Don’t quote me, but I believe I remember reading that you can use it to ‘sync’ in MSC mode.

MSC mode allows your computer to see your player as just another flash-based storage device. It’s the simplest and most trouble-free mode. If you confident enough to just drag & drop the files you want to the player use MSC, the M ode of S ansa C hampions.

nutshellml wrote:

I just bought my 8GB Clip+ and can’t wait to get using it…

 

I couldn’t find the specific answer to my question… I’m using Windows 7, MediaMonkey (latest Version) and have the 8gb Clip+ and 16GB card.

  1. Is there any way to have it show as one complete device in MediaMonkey? If so, how?
  1. If not, when placing music on each device (internal / external) will I be able to shuffle all and have everything play?
  1. In everyone’s experience what format is best to create playlists?  I like to have as much info as possible and I also have an iPhone that I use w/ Media Monkey and would like to keep the playlists in one format.  Any suggestions?

 

Thanks

  1. Not that I know of.

  2. Yes, you can shuffle all of the entire device, or just the internal memory, or just the card…it’s up to you.

  3. Can’t help you…only playlist I have ever done anything with is the Sansa GoList.

 Other thoughts…MSC is better than MTP…but either or is better than Auto. Mediamonkey works fine with MSC, at least for my non-playlisting needs.

@marvin_martian wrote:


@nutshellml wrote:

I just bought my 8GB Clip+ and can’t wait to get using it…

 

I couldn’t find the specific answer to my question… I’m using Windows 7, MediaMonkey (latest Version) and have the 8gb Clip+ and 16GB card.

  1. Is there any way to have it show as one complete device in MediaMonkey? If so, how?

  2. If not, when placing music on each device (internal / external) will I be able to shuffle all and have everything play?

  3. In everyone’s experience what format is best to create playlists?  I like to have as much info as possible and I also have an iPhone that I use w/ Media Monkey and would like to keep the playlists in one format.  Any suggestions?

 

Thanks


  1. Not that I know of.
  1. Yes, you can shuffle all of the entire device, or just the internal memory, or just the card…it’s up to you.
  1. Can’t help you…only playlist I have ever done anything with is the Sansa GoList.

 

 Other thoughts… MSC is better than MTP…but either or is better than Auto. Mediamonkey works fine with MSC, at least for my non-playlisting needs.

I set it to MSC but after syncing in MediaMonkey my playlist I couldn’t see anything in my playlist on my Clip+

Also, can I ask why you think ‘playlists are silly’ (referencing your signature) just curious.

nutshellml wrote:



I set it to MSC but after syncing in MediaMonkey my playlist I couldn’t see anything in my playlist on my Clip+

Also, can I ask why you think ‘playlists are silly’ (referencing your signature) just curious.

  I get by just fine with either listening by album, by shuffling  an artist, or shuffling all. The only “playlisting” I’ve ever done, was with the GoList.

I used it for a month or two loading an artist’s albums to it in chronological order (way back before we had folder browsing on the Fuze).  I experimented with it a little bit, mostly just creating smaller subsets to shuffle, before I came to the conclusion that anything new, I wanted to listen to the album straight through, until I knew the songs well . After that, it made more sense to just shuffle all, to keep more of my collection fresh in my memory.

Other than that, I’ve used the GoList a couple times, for tunes for short road trips that would be agreeable to both me and the driver (so I didn’t have to navigate a player in a moving car) , since it only takes a couple minutes to add 20-25 songs to it.

Back to your question, why do I think playlists are silly? Well, from what I’ve described here, you can see, I hardly ever have a use for one. 

But my main reason I think they are silly, is the sheer number of posts relating to them in this forum and others. How to make them, why don’t they work on both card and internal memory, why can they only be X number of songs, why do they work in MTP and not MSC ( or vice versa) , why can’t I make them on the player, why can’t I add to existing ones on the player…etc, etc, etc, …there’s plenty more questions, but I think you get what I’m trying to say.

All these questions, and the stress people put themselves through…that’s where the “silly” comes into play for me.  I’m a big believer in the phrase “stress is your enemy”…so I’m amused at how so many people can stress out over something like a playlist…and even get angry if their player doesn’t cooperate with them like they think it should.

So while they worry about their playlists, I’ll be rocking out peacefully.  

The MSC-MTP mode conundrum:

When your player is connected to your computer under USB MSC mode (set under the player’s Settings/USB Mode), your computer only sees the files that had been transferred to the player when the player was connected under MSC mode.  Likewise as to MTP mode.  Regardless, all the files show up and are playable on your player, under whatever USB mode setting.

A good reason why some people prefer to set the USB Mode on their player to either MSC or MTP:  on the Auto setting, the player tries to connect under MTP mode but then will fall back to MSC mode if the MTP connection does not work; the result being, you may have a mix of MSC and MTP mode transferred files on your player, making some of them not visible on your computer without switching to the other USB mode. 

Because MSC mode is more universal (playing with a broader range of operating systems, including Linux and on Macs, and without a need for Windows Media Player on the computer), some people prefer MSC mode.  However, note that DRM (digital rights management) files need MTP mode–they will not transfer sufficiently (the DRM license will not transfer) under MSC mode.