Wrong playback order for audio books

Hi

My  Sansa Clip  works in a strange way with audio books.

Streactly speaking, it plays files in a random way, not according to files naming order (and it si not shuffling mode, in some cases it works fine).

I saw here suggestions to fix mp3tags, but, of course, this approach is not feasible for directories with tens of files; all I want it will work according to names order, as primitive players do.

Is it a configurational issue - may be I should change smth in sansa settings? Or, may be it i a problem of this particular device and i haveturn to the store to replace it?..

Greatly appreciate any inputs (example disfunction - a wrong played order files naming list is available if needed)

Sincerely

Michael

It doesn’t sound like there is anything wrong with your clip. I went through this problem when I first got my clip and it is still a bit irritating. You do have to retag the files. I’ve been using Mp3tag and it makes it easy to retag hundreds of files in multiple directories, though there is a learning curve… I have been able to create “Quick Actions” that do most of my renaming.

The primary thing that the clip seems to rely on appears to be the track number.

Wes

Agreed, problem is if files are not .mp3 and lack tag date, then they seem to play in order in which they are written to directory. This is the order shown using the dir command in a dos window. Fortunately many times files are in this order anyway, like when you use the voice recorder.

Typo, date should read data

A more serious problem is that even with the proper tagging the sort order may still be wrong.

http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=18412&jump=true#M18412

Is SanDisk ever going to fix this?

Even a different album-artist may cause a different sort order … it took me some time to find out …

Again, I’ve read most of these posts and followed some of the links. For mp3 files with tag data, the device will use the album name in the album field and sort by track#. The filename displayed will be that imbedded in the tag field. If you are combining items from different sources you will need to fix that track# to the way you want to sequence. The device will ignore directory structure and windows filenames and index as if all the music is dumped into one large directory.

If files contain no tag data, I believe the album name will be the windows explorer directory name for first level under music and filename will be the windows filename. My experience is files will play in order in which they are written. Most times when you are dealing with stuff like items recorded on the device or downloaded audio books this will correspond to the way you would want it.

You can see the order in which files are stored in a directory by opening a dos window and display using the dos ‘dir’ command. You can add switches to display in various sort order but this does nothing to change the order stored.

If files are not in mp3 format, or they are, but lack tag data you can try this. Delete all the files in the affected directory, then copy back one at a time in the order you wish to play them. If this doesn’t work I give up.

This mp3 player playback in wrong order if I cannot get track info through the internet.

 I ripped audio book CDs(the track info was not available at the time: no mp3 property info attatched to the ripped files)  Each of them have more than 20 files. I made 4 folders on my pc for each CD, then copyed them into audio book folder in my Clip+. This mp3 player plays back the audio book files in wrong order. Like this. 1st track or CD1 then 1st tradk of CD2, 2nd track or CD1 followed by 2nd track of CD2,…  You cannot enjoy an audio book in this squence.  Update to the latest firmware did not solve this problem.

Message Edited by jkh on 07-11-2010 10:49 PM

jkh wrote:

This mp3 player playback in wrong order if I cannot get track info through the internet.

 

 I ripped audio book CDs(the track info was not available at the time: no mp3 property info attatched to the ripped files)  Each of them have more than 20 files. I made 4 folders on my pc for each CD, then copyed them into audio book folder in my Clip+. This mp3 player plays back the audio book files in wrong order. Like this. 1st track or CD1 then 1st tradk of CD2, 2nd track or CD1 followed by 2nd track of CD2,…  You cannot enjoy an audio book in this squence.  Update to the latest firmware did not solve this problem.

You’ll need to edit the ID3 tags as discussed earlier in this thread (and numerous others).

I recently purchased a 4GB Sansa Clip Plus to listen to my mp3 Audio Bible.  After downloading

all of the files on my player I have 1259 files (every chapter of the Bible) that are out of order.  

I have a Mac and cannot download Windows Media Player and any other PC software.  After visiting 

many sites it sounds like the only solution is to tag each file (not really sure how to do this, and

if I did I’m not sure if this would be a realistic option for the large number of files that I have -

especially if I have to do it one at a time).   Am I dreaming to think that 

I will be able to find Psalm chapter 55 without having to scroll through 1259 random files?  

I’m hoping someone has a realistic solution.  

Editting the ID3 tags on that number of files without an ID3 editor tool is going to be difficult.  I would google an “ID3 tag editor for Mac”. 

In my favorite free app, MP3Tag (PC only?), you’d let it load up all the MP3 files for the Bible - you click on the top of the columns until the files are in the order you desire, then you select the auto-number wizard to renumber the tracks.  Depending on how your files are named or already tagged, it may be easier to just number each book of the Bible separately (Genesis, tracks 1 - whatever, Exodus, tracks 1 - whatever - if I had to tag by book anyway, I’d also re-tag the book title “Genesis” to “Bible - 01 Genesis” & Exodus to “Bible 02 - Exodus”, so the books would sort in the correct order, too - oh, yeah, and set genre to “Audiobook”).  The tag editor makes it rather painless (it would still be time-consuming, but not as bad), but I’m not familiar with what tools are available for Mac.

If you have the Clip+, have you looked at the Bible under Folder Navigation to see if that lists the files any better?

Absolutely check the folder view on the Clip+, at the bottom of the Music listing.  It will show your files by their filenames–if the filenames are welldone easy to navigate for you, that may be the easy answer.

Also, as to MP3Tag–it also will allow you to fill in the tags for your files based on the filenames, and you can do this for multiple files at one time.  And so, assuming that your filenames are fine, this would be an easy way to fill in the ID3 tags.