Weird Random problems with Playlists, V2 Fuze

I’ve been searching this forum for info for several hours and haven’t found any info, so please excuse if I’m asking a duplicate question here.

I’ve got a new Fuze with an 8 gb SD card added. It’s got version 2.01.17A firmware in it, and it’s set to MSC file transfer. I’ve been loading it using drag and drop, and I’ve been trying to make playlists with Winamp. I was dragging files from the music directory into Winamp, then saving the winamp playlist as an m3u file in the Fuze music directory. The playlists showed up empty. 

Then I thought maybe there was a problem with the size of the playlists (I was trying to create huge lists). Through trial and error I found that once I created lists of 483 files or less, the lists showed up correctly on the Fuze. Great, I thought I had solved the problem. So, I created a 300 entry playlist using Winamp. I load it on the Fuze, and it looks fine. I start playing it and it shows 300 files cued to play. Great. I back out of playlists, then reload the same playlist, and now only the first 9 files are listed.  WTF!

This is a completely repeatable issue. 

Edit:To clarify, I can open the playlists multiple times without problems, but once I start to play a file, if I back out of the playlist and reopen the playlist it only shows a few of the files. Like there is no longer enough ram to load the list. This continues until I do a hard reset (left button plus power off), then I can load the full playlist once again)

Does anyone out there know the definitive limits on playlist size, and does anyone out there have a clue why this happens? Is this a bug? Is it on the list to be fixed on the next firmware update? 

BTW, if you wonder why I want such huge playlists, I use the player for both music and a collection of Radio Programs. I’d like to play random songs without the radio programs popping up in the rotation. The only way I can think of doing this is to create a playlist that includes all the music but none of the radio shows. 

Message Edited by narf on 02-20-2009 04:31 PM

Message Edited by narf on 02-20-2009 04:32 PM

Anyone?

Have you tried putting the radio programs in the podcast or audiobook folder?

Sorry Narf… Musta missed this way back when. Have you tried dragging the playlist files to the playlist subfolder on the internal memory (For playlists on the internal card) try the same for external card (You may have to create a folder). I dont use WinAmp so I dont know the spesifics to that but putting the files in a playlist subfolder, has helped others in the past.

@marvin_martian wrote:
Have you tried putting the radio programs in the podcast or audiobook folder?

Actually I haven’t. Right now they live in a root folder on the external sdcard called “radio” .  I guess you are suggesting that when you use the “play all” function it ignores the podcast and audiobook folders. I’ll give it a try and report back. Thanks for the suggestion.

@narf wrote:


@marvin_martian wrote:
Have you tried putting the radio programs in the podcast or audiobook folder?


Actually I haven’t. Right now they live in a root folder on the external sdcard called “radio” .  I guess you are suggesting that when you use the “play all” function it ignores the podcast and audiobook folders. I’ll give it a try and report back. Thanks for the suggestion.

Yes, hitting play all with the shuffle on (you said random songs) and repeat off, the podcast/audiobooks are ignored.

@conversionbox wrote:
Sorry Narf… Musta missed this way back when. Have you tried dragging the playlist files to the playlist subfolder on the internal memory (For playlists on the internal card) try the same for external card (You may have to create a folder). I dont use WinAmp so I dont know the spesifics to that but putting the files in a playlist subfolder, has helped others in the past.

I didn’t find any playlist folder, so I just created one in the root director. Then I recreated a 350 song long playlist using winamp and saved it in the playlist directory. (I recreated it so that the paths would be correct. When I tried to play it it showed up empty. I opened the playlist in notepad and each entry had the path \MUSIC… . Just in case the leading slash was an issue I deleted the leading slashes from all the entries and tried it again. Still empty. It acts like the playlist only works when it’s in the \MUSIC directory. Anyway

@marvin_martian wrote:


@narf wrote:


@marvin_martian wrote:
Have you tried putting the radio programs in the podcast or audiobook folder?


Actually I haven’t. Right now they live in a root folder on the external sdcard called “radio” .  I guess you are suggesting that when you use the “play all” function it ignores the podcast and audiobook folders. I’ll give it a try and report back. Thanks for the suggestion.


Yes, hitting play all with the shuffle on (you said random songs) and repeat off, the podcast/audiobooks are ignored.

Yup you are right. That’s a good workaround for now. The playlist thing is still not working right, but at least I have a way to play random music and exclude all the radio shows. Thanks!

@narf wrote:


@marvin_martian wrote:


@narf wrote:


@marvin_martian wrote:
Have you tried putting the radio programs in the podcast or audiobook folder?


Actually I haven’t. Right now they live in a root folder on the external sdcard called “radio” .  I guess you are suggesting that when you use the “play all” function it ignores the podcast and audiobook folders. I’ll give it a try and report back. Thanks for the suggestion.


Yes, hitting play all with the shuffle on (you said random songs) and repeat off, the podcast/audiobooks are ignored.


Yup you are right. That’s a good workaround for now. The playlist thing is still not working right, but at least I have a way to play random music and exclude all the radio shows. Thanks!

Cool, I thought it might work…enjoy!:smiley: