Sort order of tracks

How come my tracks order like this on the fuze.












I have this as the filenames and in the title attribute and would like them ordered properly:








Thanks for any help 

The Fuze reads the ID3 tags of the files, and creates it’s database from that.  The filename itself isn’t applicible, unless you have no ID3 profile on the file.

as i mentioned, i have the same data in the TITLE tag, so why doesn’t it sort properly?  Is there a different tag these filenames need to be in?  Also, it seems totally stupid that this doesn’t seem to be documented on file management.

I believe it’s the track number tag, not the title tag that controls the sort.  I’m not 100% sure, but I think it sorts first on track number (which it sorts numerically), then on title (which is an ASCII sort).  I’m at work so I can’t verify it right now, but I’m pretty sure that’s the way it works.

Playlists might be a better option if you’re trying to achieve some specific sorting.  Then the file name and tag info won’t matter.

track number tag only is shown if you view the music in the albums node. try removing the id3 tags and see if it still shows up in the incorrect order.

you can use id3kill, a very simple program that removes id3 tags.

and if you want to retag them all you can use mediamonkey, which has a tag from file name feature.

also try transfering the files in msc and compare between mtp mode. mtp mode builds the database during transfer and msc builds database after transfer/disconnect, so that might have affected it. 

currently my title and filename are the same except title doesn’t have the .mp3 in it

here’s a pic of my current setup that doesn’t sort correctly.  Any help appreciated. 

please try what I suggested earlier with removing the id3 tags and seeing if it displays the same order. and also to see if mtp or msc transfer will make a difference.

I removed Track and Title and have the same prob.  Any other specific tags I need to remove?

Here’s the latest pic: 

I’m curious what program are you using to transfer the music?

Message Edited by thoma on 05-16-2008 03:46 PM

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I think I know what it is.  I looked at your first screenshot and noticed your track number.

if you look all the file’s albums and artists are the same. but there are duplicate track numbers.

there are 1’s for ever *01 and 2’s for every *02, etc etc.

hence I think it would list:

101  #1

201  #1

102  #2 

202  #2


however the play all should play in alpha order, but if you play all under albums, it will play in the above order.

anyways I’m going to test this and get back to you.

alright, well I set up the id3 tags the way you have it.


when I choose “play all” or “songs”  the order was as follows:

101, 102, 103, 104, 105, . . .etc. . . 201, 202, 203, . . . .etc. . . 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, . . . etc

when I choose to play from artists, albums, or genres the order was as follows:

101, 201, 301, 102, 202, 302, 103, 203, 303 

exactly and it does it wrong in audiobook here too.

it does it wrong because the albums/artists are the same and you have track numbers, remove the track numbers and they will play in alpha order in those nodes other than play all and songs.

that or change the album numbers to reflect “1” “2” “3” so that each set of tracks have their own album reference. otherwise you’ll have a few track #1’s (and #2s, and #3s, etc) for the same album.