My album art wont show up
the songs are id3 and tagged with the art
and it shows up when connected to the computer, but doesnt show up on the device itself
HELP HELP HELP
The Fuze doesn’t use tag images, there has to be a picture called ‘folder.jpg’ in the album folder (which means each album should be in its own folder). I find it a little easier since you don’t have to tag each song with the album art.
**bleep**!! it’s not a good info for me because all of my MP3 have embedded album art.
I want to buy a Fuze but if this option is not included, it’s not on my way.
On my E260 Embedded album art work very well.
Is it possible that a firmware update may change this bug?
@riolist wrote:
The Fuze doesn’t use tag images, there has to be a picture called ‘folder.jpg’ in the album folder (which means each album should be in its own folder). I find it a little easier since you don’t have to tag each song with the album art.
Sometimes when I drag the album art image into it’s folder, it over writes another folder’s image.
Anyone else having this problem?
yes!!! my art is overwriting other art
now all of my albums show up as leona lewis…
what can you do to correct this problem??
FuzeFan wrote:
Sometimes when I drag the album art image into it’s folder, it over writes another folder’s image.
Anyone else having this problem?
Are you using MTP or MSC mode? I use MSC mode with a \MUSIC\<Artist>\<Album> folder structure and a folder.jpg in each <Album> folder. I’ve made a number of updates to the folder.jpg’s and haven’t had any trouble. Is it possible the problem could be specific to MTP mode?
@skinjob wrote:
FuzeFan wrote:
Sometimes when I drag the album art image into it’s folder, it over writes another folder’s image.
Anyone else having this problem?
Are you using MTP or MSC mode? I use MSC mode with a \MUSIC\<Artist>\<Album> folder structure and a folder.jpg in each <Album> folder. I’ve made a number of updates to the folder.jpg’s and haven’t had any trouble. Is it possible the problem could be specific to MTP mode?
My Fuze is set on “Auto detect”. Should I change it to MSC mode?
Well, you could turn off the album art. :\
@fuzefan wrote:
My Fuze is set on “Auto detect”. Should I change it to MSC mode?
Not sure. You might need MTP if you have DRM files or want to use WMP to manage the player. I’m just saying that I use MSC and update album art all the time without problem. So I was just speculating that there might be some difference with MTP. But it’s pretty much a wild guess.
If you want to try switching, be aware that files added while in MTP mode will not be visible from your computer when the Clip is in MSC mode (and viceversa). So while you are still in Auto/MTP mode, you’ll want to move/delete all the files on the player. Then switch to MSC and copy everything back.
You can use a folder.jpg with either MSC or MTP (using Explorer, or Windows Media Player will create the folder.jpg). If you use MSC, you can download mp3tag and use it to extract the album art. Right-click on the album art for one of the songs, then select “Extract”. It will create folder.jpg in the directory that the song is in.
It would be more convenient if it recognized album art. Maybe someday.
What horse manure.
Why do you have to jump through hoops to use this most basic feature?
Embedded Album Art support is not a “basic” feature, and in fact many OS’es for MP3 players do not support reading of Album Art directly off the tag. Rockbox being one of them.
In fact Windows Media Player doesn’t use embedded art, but creates several .jpg’s inside each albums folder to display various sizes of Album art within the program.
When Media Player or another program actually transfers album art to a player, it also transfers the folder.jpg file as well. This is the most basic functionality of displaying Album art.
Embedded Album art support is not basic. It is advanced.
When in MSC mode, the computer does not recognize your Fuze as an actual music player. It treats it as a thumb drive, and when you do transfers of songs to a thumb drive, many times, the media player (such as Media Player or Winamp) will NOT transfer the folder.jpg automatically.
The hints and tricks given in this thread are meant to make the process easier when you sync in MSC mode and if you have a program that will not automatically transfer the folder.jpg file during sync.
If you manually drag and drop folders into the Fuze in MSC mode, you are moving the folder.jpg file as well, and as a result it will work out of the gate.
Many of us use “embedded album art” as a way to make sure that if for any reason the folder.jpg file, does become corrupt or removed, we can recreate it again from a program such as MP3Tag (which does a great job by the way). Mp3Tag is also a great way to “find” album art that other Media Players (such as Winamp or WMP 11) may miss.
Actually the fuze is pretty forgiving in it’s album art support. Rockbox for instance has very specific size limitations and requires the user to manually or through the use a third party program, size the art as well to a very specific size. This art has to also be specifically named to be recognized.
While it would be NICE if the Fuze could read embedded album art directly, very few programs automatically embed it into the tag itself, so you still would have to use a program such as MP3Tag to embed the art manually.
A little research into how album art is handled by media players, library programs, and the like will help with your understanding and you will find that while the Fuze doesn’t have the most sophisticated Album art support out there, it is not the most restrictive either. And programs such as Mp3Tag can ease the hassle of using album art greatly.
I use Album fill in Winamp to auto fill complete albums to my player (The only program I have found that will actually go through and sync entire albums, not just a shuffle of tracks). However it’s weakness is it’s inability to transfer the folder.jpg file. With MP3 tag, I can go to my Fuze and run MP3 tag against my entire Music folder (over 80 albums) and have album art properly placed on the player for each album in less than 2 minutes, because I embed the art in all my tags and use MP3Tag to export the embedded art into a folder.jpg.
Of course I am also very conscious to use MP3Tag on every album I rip or download to ensure that the resulting MP3’s have art embedded in them. This process to is made very easy and short by the use of the program. With some simple music management techniques and a good program like MP3Tag, you too will find the process pretty painless.
But whatever the solution, album art support is by no means flawless and by no means automatic. If it seems automatic, its because your sync software is doing it in the background. Good music management is a must for Album Art to be reliable.
I use MSC mode by choice with Winamp, because in MSC mode, my Rhapsody Channels are “hidden” from Winamp in MSC mode, and I don’t have to worry about Winamp blowing away Rhapsody channel content when it syncs. So as a trade off, I manually manage my album art.
Message Edited by p_opus on 06-29-2008 02:05 PM
Message Edited by p_opus on 06-29-2008 02:12 PM
Well said, p_opus! Personally, I cannot fathom why anyone wants ~12 copies of the same image (one per song on an album) taking up precious space on the MP3 player, or on the PC for that matter.
I use a similar discipline in managing downloaded music for my player. I run all my downloads through MP3Tag (select all and hit Save) just to ensure the tags are all in the same character encoding scheme (ISO-8859-1). (A certain unnamed music source seems to mix up the encoding for ID3 tags which results in a lot of “unknown” genre/artist fields).
I since I do like good quality album art to show in Winamp, I do the following: download the highest quality image I can find (often a 500 x 500 JPG from Amazon.com) and name it <album>.jpg, then resize the image down to 220 x 176 (Fuze screen size) and name it folder.jpg. This way I get the higher quality in Winamp, and the best the screen can handle without wasting memory on the Fuze. Admittedly, I have some util programs which automate much of this as well as remove the non-“folder” JPGs from the Fuze after a drag-n-drop from the PC, and also set the hidden attribute so they don’t show up under the PHOTO directory. In fact, I leave the .bat files which invoke them in the root directory on the Fuze so its easy to invoke them.
Thanks - now it makes sense.
forget embedded art in the id tage, etc-
basically you just have a 200x200 .jpg file called “folder.jpg” in the same folder of the mp3 files.
then when you drag the folder to the fuze the album art will display.
pretty simple.
and seems to work in my initial test.
i really like having the abilty to manually copy stuff to the fuze via windows exploder
from waht i gather it seems like you don’t really need to use Media Player to organize/transfer stuff to the fuze -
but you have to have ver 10 of MP installed so windows recognizes the fuze as a device it can communicate with.
is that a pretty accurate statement?
If you put your Fuze in MSC mode (Settings->System Settings->USB mode->MSC), and are willing to manually manage the files on the player, you don’t need WMP at all. Windows will see the device as just another flash disk drive.
If you are going to switch over, first erase everything on the player (either though a “format” or connecting to the PC and erasing from there), then switch to MSC. Windows only sees the files that were placed on the player in the current mode (even though the Fuze sees all files). If you switch without erasing, you won’t see what was stored earlier in the other mode, and think you’ve lost the files (although you haven’t).
thanks resnbl- that’s even better to hear, no WMP at all.
now i’m tagging, using folder.jpg and getting album art and using the media converter to upload pictures-
my little FUZE is rockin’ the way I want it.
nice work on this device Sandisk, the ability to be in control is what we want.
now i CAN’T WAIT for .flac support!!!
