Sansa Fuze+

@christy045 wrote:

Help!  I didn’t see the info on the lock change after I downloaded the firmware update.  Can someone please just tell me what I need to do?   I agree that the former locking method was totally unsatisfactory!

 

Thanks so much!

Just hold the power button briefly (less than you would to turn the player on/off, maybe half a second) to lock or unlock it.

Thanks so much for your quick reply about the new lock method – excellent!

I have had my SansaFuse+ for a few months and still having hard time with navigation.  Very disappointed.

I have an 8GB micro SD card and i want to put it in my 8GB Sansa Fuze+ but when i put it in it loads the card for a minute or so then completely shuts off and restarts. Why is it doing this and what can I do about it? An answer would be much appreciated!

@joshyman12 wrote:

I have an 8GB micro SD card and i want to put it in my 8GB Sansa Fuze+ but when i put it in it loads the card for a minute or so then completely shuts off and restarts. Why is it doing this and what can I do about it? An answer would be much appreciated!

For maximum exposure to your problem (and to those who might be able to help), I’d suggest starting your own thread, with a more descriptive subject line. :wink:

Had the device for 7 months now.  Still hate the touch controls.  Still hate the ridiculously sluggish performance.  Still hate that it takes so long for start up each time that I forget about it and it shuts itself off from idling before I remember what I was waiting for.  Still hate that the back button often takes me all the way back to the useless coverflow main menu instead of the previous screen.  Still hate that it sometimes freaks out and emits a loud buzzing noise during playback from files on my SD card.

Its been close to three months since the last firmware update, and if the next one doesn’t fix some of these fundamental problems, I’m putting it up for sale (although I will feel guilty taking someone’s money for this junky failure of electronics) and putting the money toward a Zen Touch 2.

I was thinking the same thing as sabina…at almost the same time.  However, I am waiting until it’s actually been 3 months (less than 2 weeks away) since the last update and if there is no update, I will try to sell it.  But who will buy it, and for what price?  I bet I can’t get but $50 for it.

I was thinking of getting a Cowon instead of a Zen though.

I even hate to say this, but I might just go cheaper and get a Clip+.  Few people have the complaints about it that we have about the Fuze+.

What Sabina said:

“Still hate that it takes so long for start up each time that I forget about it and it shuts itself off from idling before I remember what I was waiting for.”

Yep, it’s bad enough that it is virutally impossible to navigate songs and impossilbe to naviage through songs to genres… the sluggishness exceeds the timeout of the device.

But the fact that you have start 3 or 4 times becasue the player is so long and slow coming up that you finally look away… often right about the time that it briefly asks you to confirm that you want it on to preven a “pocket on”… and you have to do it again.  That’s probably even more why it is setting idle in my top desk drawer than all the other usuability issues with a large collection.

What will Sansa do to address this?  Almost certainly it’s time to rename podcasts or books again, tweak the clock setting and change the lock icon again so that they do another “firmware upgrade”.  Begging the question of who would need a firmware update for a non functional player if it doesn’t make the device minimally usable…

Wish there was any way to get my $213 back for the my 16 Gig Fuze+ and 32 gig Sandisk sd card. $213 bought 8 months with a pretty but nonfunctional hunk of plastic and an occaisional task to download the latest firmware.  What a completely untested product this Sansa Fuze+ was.

can you fit your whole library on one or other? If so do it then tell me if it’s still slow. My bet is it won’t be.

Hey there! Is it any way to read .txt or .doc files on Sansa+?

Sorry if i wasn’t to much attentive by reading forum topic’s

nope.

Hi all:

Is there any place that we can find what was included in the various firmware updates?  I’d like to know what things were fixed, what enhancements were made, et cetera. 

Also, it would be nice if the user manual would be updated to match the firmware.  it took me for-freakin’-ever to figure out the new lock combination!

Thanks!

Jon

@jonwestcot wrote:

 

Is there any place that we can find what was included in the various firmware updates?  I’d like to know what things were fixed, what enhancements were made, et cetera. 

  

The firmware posts here on the forum list the Enhancements, Bugs Fixed and remaining known issues that haven’t been addressed yet. The most current one is always ‘stickied’ at the top of the main page (or in the Sansa Firmware thread located in the User Guides | Firmware | Software board).

To find the older updates, you’ll have to use the Search function.

De_Clarke:  I was very fond of my Sansa Fuze (original) and I used  folder navigation exclusively.

I feel the same why as De_Clarke and some others.  On my Sansa Fuze I used folder navigation exclusively.  I mainly listen to my large collection of audiobooks in mp3 format, and occasionally music.  I am really disappointed to find that folder navigation does not exist in the Fuze+.  

I will soon be looking for a player which handles AudioBooks, and Folder Navigation.  I’m afraid I won’t be using the Fuze+ until Folder Navigation becomes available. I am hoping that Rockbox will eventually issue a stable version for the Fuze+.  The Rockbox version would contain Folder Navigation.  

@warrenrh wrote:

I am really disappointed to find that folder navigation does not exist in the Fuze+.  

 

I will soon be looking for a player which handles AudioBooks, and Folder Navigation.  I’m afraid I won’t be using the Fuze+ until Folder Navigation becomes available. I am hoping that Rockbox will eventually issue a stable version for the Fuze+.  The Rockbox version would contain Folder Navigation.  

 

Cheer up . . .

The latest firmware 02.38.06added folder navigation.

Thanks.  Folder Navigation is implemented – at least for Music.  

The implementation does seem limited and awkward to me – but I feel much more comfortable using the player.  Thanks.

Sansa Fuze+ Menu Structure Documentation:

The Sansa Fuze+ has 8 horizontally arranged top level menu choices (with only 1 visible at a time):

music / video / photo / radio / books / voice / card / settings

When at ‘music’, pressing center enters a submenu with 5 ways to select tracks (horizontally):

artists / albums / songs / genres / playlists [/ folders]

The new firmware supposedly also adds music navigation & selection by folder.

Press center to play the selected music file and display album cover art while listening.

Pressing back returns you to the music menu.

When at ‘video’, pressing center enters a submenu with 2 ways to select videos (horizontally):

A-Z / by duration

Pressing back returns you to the video menu.

When at ‘photo’, pressing center enters a submenu with 2 ways to select still photographs (horizontally):

A-Z / by date

Pressing back returns you to the photo menu.

When at ‘radio’, pressing center enters a submenu providing 2 ways to tune into FM stations (horizontally):

‘radio’ / presets

FM listening is immediately enabled in either FM station selection mode.

Manual tuning of FM stations and/or preset navigation is accomplised via the up/down arrows.

Holding center down makes or deletes a preset on the currently selected FM frequency.

Touching center brings up a 2nd level submenu with 7 vertical “options”:

Delete preset / Record radio / Play recordings / Auto scanning for presets / Seek mode / Delete all presets / Delete all recordings

Pressing back, returns you to the manual ‘radio’ tuning/listening submenu.

Pressing back again, returns you to the ‘radio’ menu.

However, when listening to the ‘radio’, a timeout takes you back to manual tuning/listening ‘radio’ submenu.

When at ‘books’, pressing center displays a submenu with 3 ways to select material (horizontally):

podcasts / audiobooks / audibles

Podcasts are grouped together vertically by Album Name. Select using vertical cursor and press center.

A third level menu will display individual episodes within an album. Select one using the vertical cursor.

Playback begins after center press. Right will jump to the next episode.

Pressing back 3 times returns you to the book menu. I don’t know how audiobooks or audibles work.

When at ‘voice’, pressing center enters a submenu with 2 tasks (horizontally):

record / play

The record screen has a vertical menu with 2 functions: Start recording / Stop

The play screen has a vertical menu containing a list of previous recordings to replay by pressing center.

Pressing back once returns you to the ‘voice’ menu.

When at ‘card’, pressing center gives an advertisement on SlotRadio when no uSD card is present.

I expect folder navigation for a removable SDcard when one is detected.

When at ‘settings’, pressing center gives a submenu with 21 options (vertically):

Music Settings / Video Settings / Photo Settings / Podcast&Book Settings / Radio Settings / Background / Backlight / Brightness / Power Saver / Sleep / Customize Menu / Equalizer / Replay Gain / Volume Level / Language / USB mode / Date / Time / Format / Restore / Info

Pressing back returns you to the ‘settings’ menu.

It was confusing to me so there I share my man page with you.

Othniel Graichen

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To Slotmonsta:

The documentation says that Ogg Vorbis is a supported format.  Ogg Vorbis is a codec for music or general audio streams.  OGG is rightly a container format for audio and video to include Vorbis, Theora and SPEEX.  My interest lies primarily in getting the Fuze+ to handle SPEEX.

Like Vorbis, Speex is not encumbered by patents, copyrights and royalty payments.  Does the Fuze+ player support any voice codecs?  I did not see AMR, G.729.1, G.722 or SPEEX listed.  When I copied a .spx file to the player, it was ignored. 

Can this function be prioritized or added?

People like myself that Record FM talk radio would love to be able to convert the huge files generated by the Fuze+ to one of these voice formats particularly for use as a podcast – if the Fuze+ supported SPEEX or AMR.  This could be done on the PC using FFmpeg.

I suggest Speex rather than AMR as you already handle the ogg container format and the DSP decoder is free software.

The Fuze+ doesn’t need Speex. MP3 at 32kbps mono mp3 is good enough and small enough. Another choice is wma at 24kbps, which is around the same sound quality as mp3 at 32kbps. I use mp3 at 32 kbps for spoken word files . I have listened to some wma files at 12 kbps, and while they were listenable, the sound quality did sound much lower than 32kbps mp3. Flash memory is cheap enough though, and at around 72 hours of 32kbps mp3 files fitting in each GB of space, that is good enough.

Speex is a voice codec whereas mp3 is a music codec. I disagree that it is unneeded.

Smartphones which Sansa competes with as a music player include AMR (nb + wb)

Speex at 15.7k bps sounds better than 64k bps mp3 podcasts of Talk Radio Shows.

SPX files are also better than AMR NB.  There are many voice codecs including AMR,

AWB, G.729.1 and Speex.  Sansa doesn’t have any!  Speex DSP is open source and

has been separated into a separate library.  The latest version has some promising new

improvements in its latest version.  Don’t knock it until you’ve actually tried it on

Windows Media Player or MP Classic.

Look at www.speex.org  The difference is astounding.