Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.18

@tomcatmeow wrote:

Just received my Sandisk Clip Zip 8GB from Santa Claus with a 32Gb SDHC card, i’m already fond of my new mp3 player,

 

Model :  Samsung MB-MSBGA / Model Code : MB-MSBGA/EU
Already upgraded to the last firmware release (01.01.18)

Naughty, naughty, you just landed yourself in the dog house.  Santa may just come and take the gift back.  :wink:

 You might try a format of the card using the SD Association’s Formatter tool, which sometimes can help.

https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/

What I find intersting is that with a 32gb card it showed 4930 files as Tapeworm explained because of the filenames and other tags which limits it.

But i now tried again, with a 16gb card and it shows 4793 files! its the same files , so I gues there is no advantage of a 32gb only if you have less then 5000 files on a high bitrate frequency and on stereo chanles

@ubtapes wrote:

What I find intersting is that with a 32gb card it showed 4930 files as Tapeworm explained because of the filenames and other tags which limits it.

But i now tried again, with a 16gb card and it shows 4793 files! its the same files , so I gues there is no advantage of a 32gb only if you have less then 5000 files on a high bitrate frequency and on stereo chanles

I don’t think I have that many files on my Clip Zip 4GB with 32GB card…but my files average over 200kbps too.

I recently updated from firmware 01.01.15 to 01.01.18. After my firmware update, I noticed that it takes a lot longer to turn on my device.

Is there a known work-around for this issue?

Is this a known bug?

Thanks.

@magiclantern wrote:

I recently updated from firmware 01.01.15 to 01.01.18. After my firmware update, I noticed that it takes a lot longer to turn on my device.

 

Is there a known work-around for this issue?

 

No.

 

Is this a known bug?

 

No. it just takes longer is all. Don’t be so impatient. :smileyvery-happy:

A lot longer–really? I haven’t noticed this with mine. If it’s more than 15-20 seconds, you might want to reapply the firmware (see the firmware upgrade sticky at the top of the forum), in case the code somehow became corrupted.

Unfortunately I didn’t time boot time before and after - it seems that it is about twice as long though.

With 01.01.18, it seems that it takes around 20 seconds to boot.

Guess I’ll try going back to the old firmware (if I can find it)…

I just timed, and with the version 18 firmware installed, the boot took approximately 10 seconds on my player. As I said, you might try reinstalling the latest firmware (see the firmware upgrade sticky thread at the top of the forum).

I tried reverting back to 01.01.15 and timing that version to see how it compared with the 01.01.18 version. It was about 3 times faster for startup and shutdown.

I noticed that I had various Spotlight and other files automatically placed in the root directory by OS X. I removed those files and re-updated (manually) back to 01.01.18 - and it was about 3 times faster - or the same speed as the 01.01.15 version

So, the slow boot (averaged 24 seconds) and slow shutdown (averaged 22 seconds) was either caused by an incorrect firmware update or by the files automatcailly placed on the zip by OS X.

Is there any documentation on what files should and should not be in the root directory of the player?

Arrggh–with all due respect to that wonderful company, it’s Apple crud again. Apple is infamous (well, in my mind, at least) for adding admin. “ghost” files to nonApple devices such as audio players (including the Clips), digital cameras, etc. when files are transferred from an Apple computer to the device–and these ghost files can choke the device. (A solution: use Internet freeware such as Hidden Cleaner or KopyMac to transfer files from a Mac to the device–the software gets rid of the ghost files.) I knew about the issue with the transfer of content files from a Mac to the Clip, but it hadn’t occurred to me that this would happen with a firmware upgrade as well (and I haven’t heard of this happening before–perhaps people have just been ignoring the extra boot time). Now we know.

And in answer to your last question, on my Clip Zip right now (apart from my content), created by the player: folders–ALBUM, AUDIBLE, AUDIOBOOKS, MUSIC, PODCASTS, RECORD, and SPORT; and system, etc. files–MTABLE, RES_INFO, SYS_CONF, and version.sdk (all of which system, etc. files show a file creation date since I last turned the player on, within the last 1/2 hour). Hope this helps–

By the way: thanks for persevering and figuring this issue out; always good to know, detective! :slight_smile:

Thanks for the guidance. I do have 2 additional files that you don’t mention: ._clpza.bin and DID.bin - should those files be present?

I’m not sure if those are from the zip being used with OS X or not…

The “._clpza.bin” file is almost certainly a ghost file (the “._” at the beginning is pretty much a dead giveaway). I don’t know about the other one.

I don’t believe that the DID.bin in a SanDisk file–likely an artifact of something.

Can you provide a link or manufacturer for the silicone sleeve? Thanks.

@divingduck wrote:

Can you provide a link or manufacturer for the silicone sleeve? Thanks.

I fail to see the relevance of a silicone case to the topic of this thread (firmware), but

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Sansa+Clip+Zip+Silicone+Case

or

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2043212.m570.l1313&_nkw=Sansa+Clip+Zip+case&_sacat=293

@divingduck wrote:

Can you provide a link or manufacturer for the silicone sleeve? Thanks.

Easily found on Amazon and eBay, and likely elsewhere.  Try a search for, well, Clip Zip silicone case.    :slight_smile:

Thank you for the step wise solution. It is very useful