Hi,
Is there an easy way of making my Sansa Clip player to organise/display songs/folders the same way they are on a PC?
I don’t like using Windows Media Player 10. I want to drag&drop folders/songs directly from PC to Sansa Clip. At the moment
I find all songs in Sansa Clip are in one same folder, i.e. Sansa Clip has ignored my folder system! 
Also many of my MP3 files don’t have ID3 tags. Do I HAVE to tag them all (2000 songs) so that Sansa Clip can recognize/display
them properly?
The answer is yes. The Clip navigates by tags. The Clip+ and Fuze offer a choice of navigation by folders or by tags. Did you just buy the player very recently? If so, do you have the option of exchanging it for a Clip+ or Fuze?
Thanks JK98. I only have the Clip (bought 3 weeks ago!) but I hear Clip+ is out in USA… I live in Ireland… I think I still can return my Clip because it is within 30 days of purchase… i simply hate relying on WMP 10 to control my music… I have owned Creative MP3 players (MuVo) that were extremely user friendly and display folder hierarchy the same way they are on a PC… same goes for MP3 files that only have a file name… no need for ID3 tags… are you 100% sure Clip+ does what i need? any disadvantages of the Clip+?
It’s easy enough to supply album, title and track numbers using mp3tag or similar. I need to do this for virtually all my installed music. For simplicity I set tags to match windows folder and file names (or other way round if already tagged). Play order is by track#, mp3tag will let you set a start track number.
Playlists are nice and have been covered elsewhere, but I’ve really only created them for test purposes, but they are easy to create.
Thanks Miikerman. I must check out the Clip+ manual asap to make a decision whether to return/keep my Clip.
I’m happy to hear that Clip+ is sturdier. Don’t mind if the clip is non-removable. Same for the front lights. In fact whatever can save battery life is good!
Yes, original Clip allows drag & drop without WMP but it doesn’t keep folder hierarchy… at least that is what i have seen so far… for example if in my PC I have Folder X with subfolders X1, X2, X3, X4, etc. each with different MP3 files… then i drag & drop onto Clip which works fine except that the Clip will display them as ALL on same folder! i can NOT specifically go down to folder X4 and play the MP3 files within that folder… am i missing something?
the problem is that i have over 2000 MP3 files and vast majority of them are discrete files, i.e. don’t have album/artist/track/genre details… they simply have the MP3 file name… other MP3 players are happy to handle folders and subfolder hierarchy as in PC… Clip despite being so good in sound quality department it had a somewhat non-user friendly UI…
what is mp3tag?
Thanks Miikerman,
I’m after downloading the Clip+ manual. As far as I can see there is no mention of playback using folders… in fact, at the top of Page 28 there is talk of needing ID3 tags! unless i’m missing something, the main difference between Clip & Clip+ is the SlotRadio feature and the memory card…
I have no problem waiting for Clip+ if I could be sure it is more user-friendly than Clip… I simply can not go through my entire library (i know 2000 songs aren’t much compared to some other people) and have to add ID3 tags to each MP3 file… life is too short! all i want is a MP3 player than is compact, portable (gym,cycling,etc.) and can be loaded/played simply without major fuss! Please Sandisk, is that too much too ask?!
I owe you an apology! You are 100% correct that the Clip+ can browse by folder… it is briefly mentioned on Page 16 of the manual… Sandisk should make a bigger song & dance about this feature because i was very close to walk away from Sandisk and go back to get a Creative player!
btw, the Clip+ manual also says that the clip at the back is removable! is this true? it doesn’t matter much to me… i just wonder if their manual is 100% correct or is it a copy+paste from Clip manual…
i found a very good review of the Clip+ here: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2009/08/sandisk-sansa-clip-plus-review.php (it mentiones folder browsing) with a useful video demo as part of the review…
tomorrow, i’ll be returning my Clip to the shop and will hold-off 2-3 months until Clip+ is on sale here in Europe…
same here, i had searched the entire PDF file for the word “folder” and no luck despite being able to see it in front of my eyes on the manual…
someone wasn’t very clever/friendly when producing that manual…
i’ll be happy with a fixed clip… it doesn’t bother me… accroding to that video demo some of the controls have also moved around making
the Clip+ a better player…
what do you mean by “pitch issue regardless”?
To answer your original question, there is an easy folder browsing option for the Clip
http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=11605#M11605
pitch issue is worrying but hopefully won’t be noticeable… for now i’m going to wait until Clip+ becomes available in Europe (Ireland)…
hopefully Sandisk will be nice to the customers and issues a firmware to fix the bug…
thanks for all your help…
@miikerman wrote:
The Clip+ will navigate and organize by either ID3 tags or folder–your choice. It will do what you want. It is supposed to be out in Europe by December (is out in the U.S. now). You can download the manual for it and check it out. (See the Clip+ forum here.)
Sorry for reviving an old thread. It seems the most related to my issue/discovery.
I have a Clip+ with the latest firmware.
I copy CBC News mp3s to my Clip+ folder MUSIC to listen to them at my convenience. The World At Six mp3s show up in Music:Recently Added:worldatsix. The The World This Week, copied to the same place, don’t show up. (Using the folders browsing, all show up, but that’s not my issue.)
Why the difference? The World At Six mp3s don’t have tags. The World This Week mp3s do have tags. When I remove those tags, the recording does show up in Recently Added. That seems very odd.
So: what is the minimum set of tags that I need to add or remove to get TWTW recordings to show up in Recently Added? In other words: are some tags a problem or are some tags required?
Here’s the set of tags on today’s TWTW (http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/twtw_20110806_96552.mp3)
$ id3v2 -l twtw.mp3
id3v2 tag info for twtw.mp3:
TRCK (Track number/Position in set): 1
APIC (Attached picture): (odcast)[, 80]: image/jpeg, 116973 bytes
TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): The World This Weekend from CBC Radio
TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Soloist(s)): The World This Weekend from CBC Radio
TIT2 (Title/songname/content description): The World This Weekend Saturday August 6
COMM (Comments): ()[eng]: Good evening, I'm Marcia Young.
This is The World This Weekend.
Tonight: The United States loses its tripple A rating.
The rating agency, Standard and Poor's agrees.
Also tonight:
A deadly day for the U-S military.
A Chinook helicopter crashes in Afghanistan carrying 31 members of an elite U-S military team.
And later.... Unaffordable and unbearable...Israeli's take to the streets to protest the high cost of living.
That's ahead
TCON (Content type): Podcast (255)
TCOM (Composer): Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
TYER (Year): 2011
Stumbled onto this thread looking for info on how to get the clip+ to read my files the way my computer does. I am too illiterate to spell, let alone tag things!!! But what I have done for a fix is, right clip the folder, tell it to make a play list, then find the book in the playlist on the clip. The stupid thing starts at track 19, but all in order, so that’s good enough for me. I post this with the faint hope that someone like me will find it helpful. If any programming gods come across this, your stinking tag programs make no sense to me!!!if you care
Well, I posted the previous after downloading the accursed MP3Tag and not being able to figure out the first thing to do with it. I haven’t deleted it immediately like I did Media Monkey, because perhaps with adequate sleep and more patience and determination, I will master it one day.
In the mean time, my problem arose when I borrowed MP3 disks from the library. They are audio books which, obviously, it becomes crucial that they play in a certain order. I dropped and dragged the files directly from the D drive into four separate folders for each book that I had created in the internal memory under the audiobooks folder, with my vista powered pc. Looking at it there with my pc, there are my books, each in their individual folders. However, when I went to listen to them in the audiobook category, they were all grouped in one folder named unknown by the clip+. It played the first 9 files in order, then started in on another book.
This is what led me to desparately search the web for an EASY fix. If I ever concieve that these ID3 isssues are understandable to me, I will return to this post and endeavor to share my understanding in a way that will help idiots like myself. Wait, I don’t want to offend the future frustrated solution surfer. I mean to say a person who is only used to using Windows Media Player to sync things with out any tricky tagging. I’ve used the advanced tagging system in WMP and it seems to just corrupt the files and freeze the player. Similarly, doing a simple sync with WMP can wind up mixing the tracks up, and it’s BOOKS I listen to. So, if there is something called ID3 tagging for dummies, point me to it.
I also feel I should point out, if anyone has read through this excessively wordy post, that once your book is in a playlist, you had better not navigate away from it with out first making a note of your place, because unlike books that end up playing rightly from the audiobook tab, the playlist won’t remember where you were before you started listening to music or another book.
Hmmm, have I made you think twice about asking what “exactly” is the issue?
I do appreciate all efforts to help, I just hate feeling stupid when I can’t make heads or tails of the solution. I don’t blame you. I struggle through life as best I can and have other things frustrating me as well, so it’s all on me. I just imagine I can’t be entirely unique which is why I chimed in on this post, to hopefully offer an easy solution for someone like me.
This is my second clip and they are super great for listening to audiobooks. Most of the time I download from libray2go and have no troubles whatsoever. I used to carpool with someone and would regularly listen to two books simultaneously with no trouble whatsoever. There are 6 different people I work with who have clips and love them to death. One obsessively collects them and is tickled to be the first one inour group with a clip zip! So I’m not a hater, just having the occasional hiccup that makes me want to pull my hair out.
The End.
@miikerman wrote:
Well, yes: you need to fill the files’ ID3 tags in, and all will be well. Just spend 1/2 an hour learning how to use MP3Tag- -really, it’s not all that hard, and easy to use once you’ve learned how to use it–and you’re set. (Do note that MP3Tag has extensive Help files; there also are various YouTube videos you can watch.) And this is true for many/most current digital audio players, which use ID3 tags.
1/2 hour? 10 minutes should be more than enough. And as far as a “Dummies Guide to MP3Tag” there are numerous posts here on the forum that explain how to use it and set it up for quick, easy & painless tag-editing.
Here’s one:
http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Fuze/Unable-to-edit-music-in-Fuze-8Gb/m-p/140331/highlight/true#M37191
and another:
EUREKA! Sucess at last!!:womanlol:
It took many hours of tinkering and stubbornness. I was on the verge of trashing the program, but I have it looking right on the player. Now, I hope it doesn’t freeze up on me when playing. I’m crossing my fingers. Now, to see if I can get a six cd book to turn up in one file. I tried once and failed, but I hadn’t removed all the original tags first. It’s my bedtime, but I’m super excited that I can make these mp3 disk books do the right thing. There’s a lot I don’t understand about the program, but the results are what count! Yay! Thanks all. I waded through a lot of information so I can’t pinpoint what exactly helped the most. I had real trouble with viewing the files in ID3Tag. It took me an age to realize I had to hit the select folder button. I kept double clicking and getting the message: No items matched your search. I was like, I can’t believe people find this program useful! I’m trashing it! But I’m glad now I stuck with it! 
@coyotemonster4 wrote:
EUREKA! Sucess at last!!:womanlol:
Now, to see if I can get a six cd book to turn up in one file. I tried once and failed, but I hadn’t removed all the original tags first.
Don’t know as I’d recommend this. For one, it will make for one humongous file and what will happen if you lose your place in it? You’ll never be able to find it again. I’ve done this with music files, particularly with Pink Floyd’s “Dark Side Of the Moon” album as it should be played gapless and many Sansa players have trouble with this. By combining all the tracks into 1 long file, this eliminates the breaks between the files and allows me to listen to the entire album as it was originally recorded. It’s a work-around.
But to do this with an Audio book with numerous CDs and multiple chapters? Uh-huh, don’t think I’d go there. There’s a big difference in merging a few music tracks into an hour-long playing file and combining several (hundred perhaps) files into one that would have a play time of several hours! 
@ coyotemonster4 wrote:
EUREKA! Sucess at last!!:womanlol:
It took many hours of tinkering and stubbornness. I was on the verge of trashing the program, but I have it looking right on the player. Now, I hope it doesn’t freeze up on me when playing. I’m crossing my fingers. Now, to see if I can get a six cd book to turn up in one file. I tried once and failed, but I hadn’t removed all the original tags first. It’s my bedtime, but I’m super excited that I can make these mp3 disk books do the right thing. There’s a lot I don’t understand about the program, but the results are what count! Yay! Thanks all. I waded through a lot of information so I can’t pinpoint what exactly helped the most. I had real trouble with viewing the files in ID3Tag. It took me an age to realize I had to hit the select folder button. I kept double clicking and getting the message: No items matched your search. I was like, I can’t believe people find this program useful! I’m trashing it! But I’m glad now I stuck with it!
Glad it worked out for you and isn’t it great when one’s efforts are rewarded so well? 
I have to agreed with Tapeworm here, in that I don’t recommend making a 6 CD book into one massive file. First, the player may have trouble decoding it during the refresh. Second, what if the refresh does go well and the player can read it just fine, but when you’re in the middle of the book and want to rewind a little, you accidently go back to the beginning? That will take a long time to fast forward to where you were.
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