More hiss on the 4 GB Clip?

Hi,

i recently exchanged my 2 GB Clip for the 4 GB version and i’m a bit disappointed by the hiss i have with my headphone. It’s very noticeable during calm or instrumental songs, and i have the impression the 2 GB Clip was much better on this point. Anyone ever noticed it?

I don’t have that with my 4 gb Clip.  I’m sure you’ve checked, but are your headphones absolutely firmly connected to the Clip?

Yeah i’ve tried a few times, but it’s my setting that also can create hiss as i have a lot of highs (+6/+8). However i think i didn’t have any hiss with the 2 GB and the same setting.

The hardware is essentially identical.

I recommend using the JVC “air cushions”  Headphones.  They sound great with NO EQ.

I don’t know if it might help, but there is a nicely regarded mini-amp. out, the Fiio E3 at dealextreme.com (for a whopping under $8.50 including worldwide shipping).  It really does work, increasing volume some and rounding out the sound nicely, enhancing bass and avoiding shrill highs; all in a tiny package, smaller than the Clip.  A nice review can be found at anythingbutipod.comhttp://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2008/07/fiio-e3-headphone-amplifier-mini-review.php  (A new Fiio mini-amp., the E5, should be coming out in the near future, taking off from the E3, with an installed rechargeable battery, volume control, on/off switch, and attempted enhanced sound.)

WOW!! All this for 8 bucks? Where’s the catch? :smiley:

I was kinda looking for a similar portable amp but i’d never seen such a cute little cheap amp, i’ll buy one for sure. I’m pretty sure this will help with my D1001, eventhough it has only a 32 ohm impedance.

sansafix: yes it’s basically the same hardware but 4 GB takes more place so it might change a lot of thing inside the machine.

I think that amplifier won’t help with hiss or other noises. I also use EQ (+7 on hights on 2G Clip) and there is no hiss. Yesterday I’ve connected my Clip to my high-end gear and I was really surprised - the sound was quite good; of course not as good as my CDP-DAC combo, but pretty good for 35€ MP3 player. And there was no hiss.

It could be that there is something wrong with your Clip.

Just checked again…no audible hiss on headphones and loudspeakers between songs or quiet passages.

And, if you like to use EQ - then use it. I also use it. There is no room for EQ on a high-end gear, but for MP3 player the EQ is welcome; you can trim the sound to your leaking.

@mobbaddict wrote:

 

sansafix: yes it’s basically the same hardware but 4 GB takes more place so it might change a lot of thing inside the machine.

It might, but probably not.  And 4 GB doesn’t necessary take more space.  You’ll notice that all microSDHC cards, for example, are the same size regardless of capacity.

Yeah maybe there’s a problem with my Clip then, i trust you as i had the same model and the same setting as you and i had no hiss either. I’m not sure the shop where i bought it would exchange my new Clip though but i could give it a try.

I agree with you about EQ, even if it adds some hiss it sounds much better to my ears, and again hiss is only noticeable on very few tracks…

Promisedplanet: i guess you’re right, flash memory doesn’t take much place anyway.

Message Edited by mobbaddict on 10-19-2008 10:54 AM

Still; you wrote that hiss is only noticeable on very few tracks - could it be that the hiss is on the tracks and you only hear what is recorded? It happens on old recordings.

Can you hear the hiss if you pump up the volume without the music is playing? If so then there could be something wrong with the Clip. You could go to the store and try another Clip (if possible) just to be sure

Regards;

@mobbaddict wrote:

WOW!! All this for 8 bucks? Where’s the catch? :smiley:

I was kinda looking for a similar portable amp but i’d never seen such a cute little cheap amp, i’ll buy one for sure. I’m pretty sure this will help with my D1001, eventhough it has only a 32 ohm impedance.

Yep, that’s why it’s attracted a good buzz.  (Not to mention that the s/h through dealextreme is “free” (that is, built into the $8+ cost). 

The new version, out by next month, also looks nice–modeled after Apple’s Shuffle in looks.  It has nicely enhanced features, although the price will be double or so (altho, that’s still low).

More hiss?   Sounds like it’s time for a new tube.  Depending upon your heater voltage, check out if you have a 12AX7 or 6DJ8 tube in the predriver stage.  I find that the 6922 type are quieter, and I don’t pick up as much noise on them in the Waterman oscilloscope either.

Perhaps if you tap on the side of the Clip, you could isolate if the aging tube has gone microphonic on you too.

Oops, sorry, just came back from a wormhole experiment.

Bob  :stuck_out_tongue: 

Message Edited by neutron_bob on 10-20-2008 08:33 AM

I have a 4gb and 2gb clips, and i have hisses when i use the eq and listen to some classical music when the volume of the track is very very low. expect those tracks, everything’s fine. i suggest you turn off the eq (set to normal), and check if the problem is happening to you with low volume tracks.

goltic: none of that unfortunately. I’ve noticed the hiss on a few recent tracks (i"m not reallty into “old stuff” anyway), and even a hip-hop track (veteran’s memorial part 2 from prodigy).

I have no hiss AT ALL when i press pause.

miikerman: yes i’ve heard of the new Fiio E5, i’ll buy one for sure, the new battery is much more convenient.

neutron bob: thanks but are you talking about amp? I don’t use any :stuck_out_tongue:

fighterblast: the thing is i didn’t have any hiss with my 2 GB Clip, and i’m still using the same EQ and listening to the same music :stuck_out_tongue: So i don’t think it’s about settings, it’s more about a hardware problem i guess.

Well thks for your answers, i guess i should go to the shop and complain now!

edit: i do have hiss on my computer too with the concerned tracks! I would have sworn there was no hiss at all with my 2 GB Clip but maybe i didn’t pay attention to that after all… i’m really surprized still.

Message Edited by mobbaddict on 10-20-2008 02:09 PM

I see that the thread is old but I have a similar problem.

I bought a 8gb silver clip and was very pleased to find out that there was ABSOLUTELY NO background noise or hiss at ANY volume level with my AKG K324 headphones. Unfortunatelly, I lost my clip with my phones, so what i did was to buy the same player and the same headphones. The thing is that the new one has some background hiss at higher volume  .