I’m looking at Clips on newegg.com and notice what must be two revisions being sold of identical clips. It appears that the main difference is the part #. One ends in -a57 and one in -a70. Is this any indication of the revision number?
For example, here is a 2GB blue clip. One has this part #:
SDMX11R-002GB-A57
and one has this part #:
SDMX11R-2048B-A70
Thanks for any help!
I’d like to know as well.
Turning the thing on and looking at the info screen is one way, another is looking through the hole in the Clip’s clip.
Rev. 1 says 2GB on mine, and Rev. 2 has the new Sansa/4 S’s/4-leaf clover logo . My Rev. 2 came in the same packaging as my Rev. 1 that I got last year, so that’s not a given either way.
Since I want to order online, it’s kind of hard for me to examine the units or the packaging. I was hoping someone knew the part # schemes SanDisk uses.
Thanks anyway.
@zdaddy wrote:
Since I want to order online, it’s kind of hard for me to examine the units or the packaging. I was hoping someone knew the part # schemes SanDisk uses.
Thanks anyway.
I gotta ask? Why Does it matter? They play the Same and work the same. The only difference is a little bit of hardware and the Firmware you have to install, but even that is the same for both V1 and V2
Didnt think about that.
Doesn’t really matter actually because both rockbox versions won’t be out for a long time yet.
And some of us have no interest either 
@d_headshot wrote:
Doesn’t really matter actually because both rockbox versions won’t be out for a long time yet.
Unless they work with rockbox and need a player to use for tests.
@miikerman wrote:
@marvin_martian wrote:
And some of us have no interest either
Marvin, I’ve seen enough of you here to guess that if a less alpha or beta version of Rockbox issued for the Clip, you likely would be trying it out (and, my hunch is, liking it).
I’m somebody that uninstalled SMC even though I own a Fuze, because the effort involved wasn’t worth what you got from it. I still use my Fuze at least 2 hours a day, so clearly I’m not torn up about the video issue…I bought it thinking any video was a bonus, and I still feel that way.I know this is the Clip forum, but I use both players much the same way, except the Fuze doesn’t go anywhere.(and it has a bigger GoList)
So…given that I don’t feel the effort with SMC is worthwhile, I can’t help but wonder if RB would be the same way. With all the pleas for help that I’ve seen that are RB related over at ABI, I can’t help but wonder why so many can’t figure it out…and it just makes me wonder if it would be worth it
.I know it has games…I have a PS2 for that, I don’t even play the ones on my phone. 
Themes…maybe cool, but most of the time my screens are asleep anyways.
Gapless would be cool, but I’m ok without it. The one thing that I do like that I know of is seeing more info…bitrate, codec, etc. 
But I wouldn’t want to jump through hoops to get it either. And there’s no one nearby IRL with a player that has it for me to see either…I was congratulated on getting an iPod 
for walking in with my Fuze, and on another day, my Clip, to work.
So given all this, do you still think I would like it? 
(that turned out to be more of a novel than I expected…lol)
@marvin_martian wrote:
@miikerman wrote:
@marvin_martian wrote:
And some of us have no interest either
Marvin, I’ve seen enough of you here to guess that if a less alpha or beta version of Rockbox issued for the Clip, you likely would be trying it out (and, my hunch is, liking it).
I’m somebody that uninstalled SMC even though I own a Fuze, because the effort involved wasn’t worth what you got from it. I still use my Fuze at least 2 hours a day, so clearly I’m not torn up about the video issue…I bought it thinking any video was a bonus, and I still feel that way.I know this is the Clip forum, but I use both players much the same way, except the Fuze doesn’t go anywhere.(and it has a bigger GoList)
So…given that I don’t feel the effort with SMC is worthwhile, I can’t help but wonder if RB would be the same way. With all the pleas for help that I’ve seen that are RB related over at ABI, I can’t help but wonder why so many can’t figure it out…and it just makes me wonder if it would be worth it
.I know it has games…I have a PS2 for that, I don’t even play the ones on my phone.
So given all this, do you still think I would like it?
(that turned out to be more of a novel than I expected…lol)
But you know you would install it and at least try it, then switch back to the Sandisk FW. I would.
@conversionbox wrote:
@marvin_martian wrote:
@miikerman wrote:
@marvin_martian wrote:
And some of us have no interest either
Marvin, I’ve seen enough of you here to guess that if a less alpha or beta version of Rockbox issued for the Clip, you likely would be trying it out (and, my hunch is, liking it).
I’m somebody that uninstalled SMC even though I own a Fuze, because the effort involved wasn’t worth what you got from it. I still use my Fuze at least 2 hours a day, so clearly I’m not torn up about the video issue…I bought it thinking any video was a bonus, and I still feel that way.I know this is the Clip forum, but I use both players much the same way, except the Fuze doesn’t go anywhere.(and it has a bigger GoList)
So…given that I don’t feel the effort with SMC is worthwhile, I can’t help but wonder if RB would be the same way. With all the pleas for help that I’ve seen that are RB related over at ABI, I can’t help but wonder why so many can’t figure it out…and it just makes me wonder if it would be worth it
.I know it has games…I have a PS2 for that, I don’t even play the ones on my phone.
So given all this, do you still think I would like it?
(that turned out to be more of a novel than I expected…lol)
But you know you would install it and at least try it, then switch back to the Sandisk FW. I would.
I guess now that I have 2 Clips, I might try it on the old one…just in case…lol.
@miikerman wrote:
I was trying to think of the advantages of Rockbox on a player as small as the Clip, when one matter came to mind: folder view!
I’ve never had a player with it. I am curious to check out just how different in practice it would be, since I think my music is pretty well organized already. I bet the people with playlist problems would love it.
Why does it matter? I’ll answer that with another question: Why did they revise the hardware? There must have been a good reason for revising hardware, otherwise they’d be wasting R&D resources. If you found out the car you were about to buy had a revision 1 and revision 2, but the car manufacturer told you “Don’t worry about it. They’re exactly the same.” then wouldn’t you at least question “Well if they’re exactly the same, why did you have to make a 2nd revision?” Wouldn’t you be inclined to want the 2nd revision because there might be some secret, unadmitted improvement?
@miikerman wrote:
Presumably, the revision gets the job done better/easier, and/or cheaper. Almost certainly, at least the latter? It also could be a parts supply issue.
I was in manufacturing for many years and you are correct on all counts!!!
In an earlier life (20+ years ago), I had a computer shop.
Most of the printers I sold back then were “decent” quality impact printers (a decent printer for office/small business use at that time was a high density dot matrix with so many pins that it was near-laser quality, but, with the advantages of an impact printer (ability to handle multi-part forms, “green-bar”/fanfold paper, economical ribbons rather than expensive messy toner, etc.); laser printers were very expensive back then, and injet printers hadn’t really hit the street yet).
Most of the printers I sold came from one well-known Japanese “prestige” manufacturer, whom I shall not name (and thus my lack of a pin-count above 
What I noticed was that as they came out with newer generations of their mainstay printer line, the newer printers would invariably 1) look nicer, 2) weigh less, and, IMO the biggie, 3) be a LOT less sturdy (metal parts became plastic parts, stuff was lighter-weight/duty, etc.)
I figured that the Deming-style SPC/TQM/QC/QA stuff was being leveraged to rationalize continuous reduction in manufacture cost (and, indirectly, transport cost) as “continuous improvement.”
But, to my jaundiced eye, the newer printers just did NOT seem to be as sturdy, and DID seem to be easier to break.
But, that was a complex mechanical device. Ruggedness does NOT seem to be an issue with the V1/V2 stuff that we’re encountering with our players. (My V1 and V2 incarnation e200 series players seem to be identical in the sturdyness department, and my V1/V2 Clips seem identical, period. (I just got my first V2 Clip today, a $49 Walmart Special, and used the Squaretrade “EARLYSPRING” 20%-off coupon code (would have been 30%-off today only, but that pumpkin deflated at 5PM PST today, a one-day promo, which they gave me only a few hrs worth of notice – and the closest Walmart is a half-hour drive.)
The only thing I don’t like about the V2 Clip is that the firmware download is HUGE, much larger than the equivalent V1 download. I have to use a dialup modem, so it took quite some time to download the V2 firmware update file.
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