Apparent playlist limit of 1000, irrespective of format...

I’m just getting my self set up on my new 2GB Sansa Fuze + 8GB uSD card…

My music listening style consists of an ~1800 song playlist, and I’m determined to make this work on the Sansa.

I’ve read through all the posts on the forum here, and have successfully created very large playlists in both the .pla and .m3u formats.

These large playlists do indeed play on the Fuze, with one major exception: they will only cycle through the first 1000 songs in the list.  (The NowPlaying display shows 1/1000, 2/1000, etc, and sure enough, after 1000/1000, it cycles back to 1/1000)

I’ve verified that the rest of the songs are indeed in the playlist by grabbing the source files (.pla .pla.refs, .m3u) right off the Fuze in MSC mode - the files beyond 1000 are actually in there.  It appears that the firmware just reads the first 1000 in, and then ignores the rest.  (BTW, I made a 950 song .m3u playlist, and that worked 100% - so the comment I’d seen in one thread about a 32K playlist file size limit is debunked…)

I believe that I am using the latest firmware - 2.02.26A.

Can anyone either confirm the 1000 song limit, or point out another method to create a 1000+ song playlist that the Fuze will play?

SansaConvert wrote:

Can anyone either confirm the 1000 song limit, or point out another method to create a 1000+ song playlist that the Fuze will play?

 

 

 

Yes, and No . . . in that order.

Short, sweet, and quick, thanks!   At least I can stop banging my head against the wall and figure out a new listening strategy…

Any indications from the development team that this is on their to-do list?

@sansaconvert wrote:

I’m just getting my self set up on my new 2GB Sansa Fuze + 8GB uSD card…

 

My music listening style consists of an ~1800 song playlist, and I’m determined to make this work on the Sansa.

 

I’ve read through all the posts on the forum here, and have successfully created very large playlists in both the .pla and .m3u formats.

 

These large playlists do indeed play on the Fuze, with one major exception: they will only cycle through the first 1000 songs in the list.  (The NowPlaying display shows 1/1000, 2/1000, etc, and sure enough, after 1000/1000, it cycles back to 1/1000)

 

I’ve verified that the rest of the songs are indeed in the playlist by grabbing the source files (.pla .pla.refs, .m3u) right off the Fuze in MSC mode - the files beyond 1000 are actually in there.  It appears that the firmware just reads the first 1000 in, and then ignores the rest.  (BTW, I made a 950 song .m3u playlist, and that worked 100% - so the comment I’d seen in one thread about a 32K playlist file size limit is debunked…)

 

I believe that I am using the latest firmware - 2.02.26A.

 

Can anyone either confirm the 1000 song limit, or point out another method to create a 1000+ song playlist that the Fuze will play?

 

 

 

On a 10GB Fuze, how are you fitting 1800 songs? Sounds like horrid low bitrates to me…how many did you squeeze on there? I have 1,490 on my 12GB Fuze.:stuck_out_tongue:

That many files seems contradictory to the idea of a playlist…why not just “play all” ? :wink:

there’s acutally only 800 or so of my favorite songs on the Fuze, but the higher rated they are, the more times I have them in the playlist, resulting in the 1800 number in the playlist.    On my Creative Zen, I play this list in random order, and it’s a great listening experience.

I’ll probably end up busting the list in 2, but that defeats the purpose of randomly popping through my entire favorites.  And yes, I could just random play the entire 800, but that misses the aspect of playing my ultra-favorites more often…

@sansaconvert wrote:

 

Any indications from the development team that this is on their to-do list?

 

I wouldn’t be holding my breath . . . the 1000 was just achieved in a recent firmware upgrade. It used to be 250 or 500; I can’t remember which.

They’ve got bigger & higher-priority fish to fry on their plate right now. By the time they get around to this one again (if it is even possible given the limited RAM available), they’ll be an entirely new player/model out replacing the Fuze.

And given past history with Sandisk, the milli-second there’s even a rumor that a model is going to be dropped, all firmware update development stops and we, the users are left out in the cold along with our wants & wishes for a better device.

@sansaconvert wrote:

 

Any indications from the development team that this is on their to-do list?

 

I wouldn’t be holding my breath . . . the 1000 was just achieved in a recent firmware upgrade. It used to be 250 or 500; I can’t remember which.

They’ve got bigger & higher-priority fish to fry on their plate right now. By the time they get around to this one again (if it is even possible given the limited RAM available), there’ll be an entirely new player/model out replacing the Fuze.

And given past history with Sandisk, the milli-second there’s even a rumor that a model is going to be dropped, all firmware update development stops and we, the users are left out in the cold along with our wants & wishes for a better device.

@sansaconvert wrote:

there’s acutally only 800 or so of my favorite songs on the Fuze, but the higher rated they are, the more times I have them in the playlist, resulting in the 1800 number in the playlist.    On my Creative Zen, I play this list in random order, and it’s a great listening experience.

 

I’ll probably end up busting the list in 2, but that defeats the purpose of randomly popping through my entire favorites.  And yes, I could just random play the entire 800, but that misses the aspect of playing my ultra-favorites more often…

 

 

The way I see it,unless you have the means to keep adding to your collection, I wouldn’t repeat the same songs in the playlist…you wouldn’t want to burn yourself out on them, and get sick of them, would you? If you really like all 800 or so songs you have on there, just shuffle them…especially if you like them all without wanting to skip any of them when they come up. But, that’s just me…do what you like with your player, of course.:smiley:

Thanks - figured it wouldn’t be too high on the list…