Tranfering and refreshing file's with my 8Gb card with Clip+

I’m been trying for almost three whole days to get my newly bought 8gb Clip+ to work with my 8GB memory card.

There are 2 very conflicting problems. #1.) The fact that it takes forever for my 7GB files to transfer to the memory card. At first the tranfers are smooth and fast, then it slows down exceedingly, until it becomes like a turtle. Taking a very long time to tranfer, over 2 or 3 hours.

2#.) The other problem is that whenever I have succeeded, (after a very long time) transfering the files to the 8GB memory card, it takes forever for the files to recome ‘refreshed’ whenever I start it up. What I mean by ‘forever’ I mean a really long time.

I have updated my Clip+ and I have also tried using both the MTP and MSC modes. I’ve tried using MediaMonkey. I’ve tried formating everything, many times as well.

I have checked the files for odd Id3 tags.

What more can I do?  Its sooo slow.

Thank you.

Rather than transferring the whole 7GB all at once, why not try a little at a time. Say like .5GB or less. After each addition, unplug and let it refresh the database. When this refresh starts taking longer than 5 or 6 minutes, then you know there’s something in the last batch of files it doesn’t like. You should probably check these files for corruption and the correct format of ID3 tag, ID3v2.3 ISO-8859-1.

I figured out that the files it was slowed down by were ones which in the format of VBR (Variable Bit Rate) And also they had a copyright (if that makes any difference).

So is this normal for VBR Mp3 files to become so slow when tranfered to the memory card? Or do I need to look for more reasons why it becomes so slow?

From the evidence, it looks as if the VBR format slows it down. Could I be wrong?

Thank you

All my music files are VBR, and I don’t have the issue that you do. 

I have a 2gb, 4gb, and 8gb card for my Clip+ and I had this problem too.  I thought, as you did, that I would just have to live with it but I figured it out.  I got a ID3 tag reader and started looking at some of my MP3 files.  Some of them had 100k headers (title, artist, date, album art, etc) and whenever I found one of these I just removed the ID3 header and replaced it with just a Album, title, and artist and boom everything got totally quicker.  When the Clip refreashes itself it now takes almost no time and I can get everything up and running in less then a minute!  I didn’t worry about anything that had a small header (you can find the length of the header in the characters 7-10 of the header) but replaced those with huge headers that slowed everything down.

It was some work but worth it in the end.  Hope this helps.

Bluadept

I just got a Clip+ today.  Although the refresh time for the microSDHC card isn’t fun, it’s MUCH faster than when the card is in my Fuze.  Hooray.

bluadept, any suggestions for an ID3 tag reader?

I have been trying to get an 8gb Sandisk card to work.  It looks like its a bad card.  So, I intend to return it.  But, I should probably check all my tags and reduce them anyway.  Thanks.

notalk wrote:

I have been trying to get an 8gb Sandisk card to work.  It looks like its a bad card.  So, I intend to return it. 

Could also be a counterfeit card. There’s a lot of them coming out of China and thereabouts being sold on-line for ‘unbelievable’ prices.

EBay is a natural haven for these thieves although having said that, I have bought all but 1 of my memory cards from dealers on eBay and have never had a problem. You just have to be careful about who you deal with.

Message Edited by Tapeworm on 06-18-2010 06:31 PM

Exactly what I was thinking.  Interestingly, the card came in complete Sandisk packaging.  The part that stood out was the Sandisk address was in Ireland.

The ebay vendor, who has not responded to my request for a RAN, has an exchange only policy.  I may just send to Sandisk for their use regarding counterfeiters.

I needed to learn about tag editors, in case that was part of the problem.  But, everything came from iTunes, which I ripped myself from my CD’s, and I tagged everything.  So, I think I’m okay.

But, if I have misunderstood tagging, someone please let me know.

One ploy going on on eBay is folks who’ll buy your microsdhc card, claim it’s defective and ask for a refund, and when you have them ship back the card, they ship you a defective one and keep the good one.

Caveat venditor.

notalk wrote:

 

I needed to learn about tag editors, in case that was part of the problem.  But, everything came from iTunes, which I ripped myself from my CD’s, and I tagged everything.  So, I think I’m okay.

 

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt whether the tags inserted by iTunes are of the type and format that Sansa players read & react to best, ID3v2.2 ISO-8859-1.

You can check and/or edit them with a free utility, MP3TAG.

notalk wrote:

 

I needed to learn about tag editors, in case that was part of the problem.  But, everything came from iTunes, which I ripped myself from my CD’s, and I tagged everything.  So, I think I’m okay.

 

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt whether the tags inserted by iTunes are of the type and format that Sansa players read & react to best, ID3v2.3 ISO-8859-1.

You can check and/or edit them with a free utility, MP3TAG.

notalk wrote:

 

I needed to learn about tag editors, in case that was part of the problem.  But, everything came from iTunes, which I ripped myself from my CD’s, and I tagged everything.  So, I think I’m okay.

 

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt whether the tags inserted by iTunes are of the type and format that Sansa players read & react to best, ID3v2.3 ISO-8859-1.

You can check and/or edit them with a free utility, MP3TAG.

Does anyone have a good idea about a free tag editor for Mac 10.6.4?

You can go this route, or peruse the iPod forums to see what people are saying about what they use.

HopeRises wrote:
Does anyone have a good idea about a free tag editor for Mac 10.6.4?

You can go this route, or peruse the iPod forums to see what people are saying about what they use.