Sansa Fuze Firmware Update version 01.01.22 & 02.01.17

 I really like the sleep timer and the new reworked go list, 200 song with the ability to add hole CD’d… Great stuff.  So far as the sleep timer goes i wander if some are having difficulty with that and how it relates to the power saver that powers the unit off after a pre set time of non inactivity.

Paul, How are you?

I’m really having a hard time not installing this firmware up date right away!!  I know give it time and let the bugs show them selves…  But I’m not sure I can… I never did the last upgrade I’m still running 01.01.11a. But then again the old firmware does what I want it to do and does it well…  But the GO list and sleep timer… Oh My…  Help!  Maybe duck-tape will help me refrain for a while till I Chew through it anyway!!  LOL!!:dizzy_face: 

Message Edited by George-W on 12-13-2008 12:16 PM

Can someone elaborate on the cursor posistion function for audiobooks? I have the Ch. Mode set to “on”, so maybe that has something to do with it, but I don’t see anything different when playing an audiobook.

Will I be able to inculde podcasts on my golist?  I was able to do that on my e260, but not on my Fuze.

Yay!  With the sleep timer, my Fuze is now complete.  I was using a rockbox’d e260 to lull me to sleep, but now I can use the Fuze.  I know Rockbox is being developed for the new Sansa line, but I’m not sure I really need it since the Fuze has everything I want that Rockbox had.  The only problem now is the long refresh time for the database.

@ranger67 wrote:
Can someone elaborate on the cursor posistion function for audiobooks? I have the Ch. Mode set to “on”, so maybe that has something to do with it, but I don’t see anything different when playing an audiobook.

The cursor positioner is used in cases where the audiobook is published as multiple files (e.g. Overdrive books do it this way).  Prior to this firmware rev, the Fuze would save the resumable position in an individual file, but wouldn’t remember which file of the book’s fileset you had been accessing when you left it.

Now, if you’re accessing a book with multiple files contained in one directory, when you leave the audiobook then return, your cursor will be positioned on the file you were listening to when you left.  There, you press enter, then approve resuming the file as usual.

Does that make sense?

Message Edited by MyDD on 12-13-2008 12:19 PM

Well, I have been a bad boy! I just updated the firmware on my 8GB fuze to the newest version

01.01.22a!!:dizzy_face:I really know I should have waited But with the new features GO list with the ability to add full CD’s and the sleep timer. I just could not help myself! I have not used the unit yet and  rip to MP3’s 100% of the time… Fingers crossed!!  But figure I can always go back to my original 01.01.11a that has worked so well for what I use the fuze for!!  George

How do I do this? GoList expanded to 200 tracks
• Add entire Artist or Album to GoList with press and hold during navigation.

I can’t seen to get the hole CD artist cd to my GO list like I can with single songs!  George

ATT 

Ok I figured out how to add entire CD’d to the GO list but now I can’t figure out how to delete the entire GO list…  Can you guys help… Thanks!  George

OK I figured it out!!  Not sure how or just what I did but it can be done song by song or entire GO list and deletion is fast to!! George 

Message Edited by George-W on 12-13-2008 05:15 PM

downloading it now…

um question

no new wallpapers? 

I just updated my firmware with the firmware updater and now when I try to look at the files on my fuze with windows explorer… it don’t show any of my videos/music/photos etc… just the stuff that was originally installed on the fuze.  I disconnected my fuze to make sure it didn’t delete all my files and nope it didn’t… their all still there… they just don’t show up in explorer.

What do I do?

Firmware updates usually revert the device back to the default MTP mode, which will show the sample songs that come on the device (as that’s how they were put on in the first place).

If you put all your music on in MSC mode, these will not be visible on your computer while connected in MTP.

Go to SETTINGS > SYSTEM SETTINGS > USB Mode and switch it to MSC Mode.

Thanks for the help Tapeworm.

Why are the two settings different?  I like how MTP mode shows the fuze as it’s own device.  But it don’t seem to work for me.  Once I hooked it up in MSC mode it shows up as a USB device and your right I see everything now.

For some reason, files you add in MTP mode only show up in MTP mode, and files you add in MSC mode only show up in MSC mode.

Personally, I’d prefer it if files added in one were accessable in both, but there’s probably some reason / limitation for why that doesn’t happen.

:wink:Both MTP and MSC will show your Fuze as a ‘unique’ device. In MSC mode, it will be considered by your computer as just another ‘drive’. MTP is needed for DRM-encrypted content like subscription services like Rhapsody or Napster or even Overdrive if you like to borrow audio books from your library.

So it’s a great benefit that SanDisk has both connection protocols available. Which is best depends on how you intend to use your player. Myself, I prefer MSC, but I don’t subscribe to Rhapsody, etc. and got burned once when I got my first player by Windows Media Player’s Automatic Sync settting. From then on, the only time any of my players ever see MTP mode is if I’m trying to duplicate or diagnose a problem for somebody here on the forum.

Here’s some more information on the subject.

Both MTP and MSC will show your Fuze as a ‘unique’ device. In MSC mode, it will be considered by your computer as just another ‘drive’. MTP is needed for DRM-encrypted content like subscription services like Rhapsody or Napster or even Overdrive if you like to borrow audio books from your library.

So it’s a great benefit that SanDisk has both connection protocols available. Which is best depends on how you intend to use your player. Myself, I prefer MSC, but I don’t subscribe to Rhapsody, etc. and got burned once when I got my first player by Windows Media Player’s Automatic Sync settting. From then on, the only time any of my players ever see MTP mode is if I’m trying to duplicate or diagnose a problem for somebody here on the forum.

Here’s some more information on the subject. By the way, you can either thank or cuss Bill Gates & Microsoft for MTP. It’s their protocol. :wink:

(That’s why you can’t see files from one mode in the other)

Hello All,

I am new to the MP3 Mobile Player community - and have some thoughts on the gapless playback issue: I am now for 10 years a happy Minidisk user but recently picked up a cheap entry level MP3 Player that cought my interest for the MP3 concept. I quickly learned, that with (mobile) MP3 Players there ist in general no gapless playback support, but that there seemed to be exceptions with certain (rockbox-tuned) players.

Lacking support for gapless playback renders the system practically useless to me. Most of what I lissen to is DJ remixes - implying gapless transition from track to track. Same applies to live recordings and classic music. In many ways MP3 Players are much more comfortable and fun to handle than Minidisk players - but when it comes down to the reproduction quality of the core subject - music - Minidisk seems to be unsurpassed (24 Bit resolution, gapless reproduction etc.).

MP3 (synonym for compression formats playable on portable devices) has been around for a long time - and it is still not possible to listen to the above mentioned gapless recordings - I am surprised! Does the MP3 community not listen to that kind of music?

Anyway, on my recent quest for a mobile player capable of gapless playback I came across Sandisk players. They generally get a very good reviews and there were hints on forums that it may be possible to tweak them for gapless support. So I picked up the new sansa fuze (at least it has ogg capability after firmware update) and then the e260 v2 (not even ogg capability!). Well, to make the long story short: I won’t be able to make one or both of these units gapless capable, neither by means of original sandisk firmware update or Rockbox. So I will probably return both Sansa units and stick with my Minidisk players.

Or is there any hint, that there will be cooperation with the Rockbox community to enable them get a Rockbox version for the above mentioned players?

I understand that companies do not spend resources on models that are not sold any more (i.e. e260), but I don’t understand the lack of support for the users(community) to enable them make better use of the units. In terms of business success, this would benefit Sandisk to develop a better market relationship. Also: the technology for gapless support cannot be rocket science - just look how the Rockbox community does it. So why is this a feature that still is not available “off the shelf”???

Best regards

Welcome to the community. You should probably make a new thread regarding gapless.

Hi pelago: is gapless a “minority issue” - or do you think it makes sense for the majority to promote gapless playback and maybe get SanDisk to do something about it?

Regards

Thanx, gotta try this out more, but I feel the accel is more of a problem than helping me…

Often, I scroll some time, it won’t accel and then when I nearly reached the entry I wanted, it suddenly skips a whole lot of pages…

It would have been a lot better if the accel was depending on how fast you scroll the wheel, instead of depending on how long you scroll it. :\

Any way to turn the scroll accel off ?

Message Edited by Roughael on 12-14-2008 04:36 AM

I’ve put a Fuze on my Christmas wish list this year, mainly based on the many reviews I’ve read about it.  However I’m keeping my fingers crossed that they put in gapless playback in a near firmware update, because I’d guess that currently about 35-40% of my CD collection is either live stuff or has tracks that seamlessly merge, and so I won’t be loading them to it yet.

Personally, I’m really surprised that so few people seem put off my this, as I’d put it right at the top of my “please fix” list.

MyDD, thanks for the explanation on the cursor position. I don’t usually switch too much between music and a book, but I’ll keep a lookout for this feature.