Before I purchase the new Clip Zip I need 2 questions answered.
Does it come with a wall charger? If not can I use my wall charger from my other Sansa Clip machine?
Is it true it comes with a disc thatll allow me to download Rhapsody on the player then I can add songs to the player without using a computer?
@eric777 wrote:
Before I purchase the new Clip Zip I need 2 questions answered.
- Does it come with a wall charger? If not can I use my wall charger from my other Sansa Clip machine?
- Is it true it comes with a disc thatll allow me to download Rhapsody on the player then I can add songs to the player without using a computer?
No on both counts.
However you do get a cord for charging so if you have a usb adapter that plugs in to the wall you are set.
As for Rhapsody. It comes with a disk and you can Rhapsody on your computer but not on your player.
PC Magazine is reporting it comes with a small disc you put into the player and it downloads Rhapsody on the player. No computer needed.
@eric777 wrote:
PC Magazine is reporting it comes with a small disc you put into the player and it downloads Rhapsody on the player. No computer needed.
Do you see a CD drive on the Clip Zip? 
The disc goes into your computer, and Rhapsody installs on your computer.
From PC Magazine read the entire article
To get your music on the player, You can connect it to your Windows or Mac computer, and just drag and drop files onto the drive as you would with any external drive. Or, you can pop the tiny disc that’s included with Clip Zip, which lets you update the device’s firmware, as well as installs the Rhapsody software onto your machine. The Sansa Clip Zip and Rhapsody are tightly integrated, giving subscribers access to Rhapsody’s huge library of songs, and the ability to manage your player within the Rhapsody application. If you’re not into iTunes but still want a robust way to manage your music, Rhapsody is a nice alternative, but I preferred the drag-and-drop method.
@eric777 wrote:
From PC Magazine read the entire article
To get your music on the player, You can connect it to your Windows or Mac computer, and just drag and drop files onto the drive as you would with any external drive. Or, you can pop the tiny disc that’s included with Clip Zip, which lets you update the device’s firmware, as well as installs the Rhapsody software onto your machine. The Sansa Clip Zip and Rhapsody are tightly integrated, giving subscribers access to Rhapsody’s huge library of songs, and the ability to manage your player within the Rhapsody application. If you’re not into iTunes but still want a robust way to manage your music, Rhapsody is a nice alternative, but I preferred the drag-and-drop method.
*sigh*
I did read the article. When they say"device" they are referring to the CZ, and when they say “machine” they are referring to their PC.
But if you don’t believe me, ask neutron_bob…he is a Rhapsody user.
Indeed, Rhapsody is wonderful with the new device. The supplied disc containns the Rhapsody 4 Client application, a music manager that is installed on your PC.
It works like iTunes could only dream of working. I use both systems regularly: iTunes has a nasty habit of shepherding you into a purchase, good luck undoing a mistake. On the flip side, Rhapsody purchases are arranged in a list that you can change or confirm prior to purchases. You also have the Rhapsody Channels feature, where you can test drive all the music you want, and purchase permanent copies later.
As for “doing things solely on the device”, with Rhapsody, you can click on the purchase function on the device, to download a permanent copy for your collection later, it’s very convenient.
The Rhapsody client manages your content on the player like Windows Media Player, so you have a library (backup) on your PC in addition to the device.
Bob :smileyvery-happy:
How many items are on the screen at a time when lists are displayed? Has folder browsing been improved compared to how it works on the Clip+? is there a way to resume a folder of podcasts being played in in folder mode, or does a series of podcasts need to be resumed via album tag?
Does it have gapless playback for “live” music?
As long it is as gapless as the clip+ or the Fuze+ it is fine with me.
How is the readability of the Clip Zip when compared to the Clip+?
@jk98 wrote:
How is the readability of the Clip Zip when compared to the Clip+?
The font for the time display is a little small and colored white, so it can be hard to read with the album art shown behind it. It would help if that and the battery icon were a little larger, in bold font and/or a different color. This may be changed in a firmware update down the road (I’m hoping anyway).
The Artist and Song title displayed across the bottom of the screen has a black background which the white, bold font shows up very clearly against. This slides off to the left when you press the center button while a song is playing so you can see the album art without anything superimposed over the top of it. Pressing the button again brings back the Song info and the date and battery icon.
Personally, I find the Clip+'s screen easier to see with the bright yellow and blue of the OLED screen, especially in the sunlight.
Thanks for the responses. So far the thing that impresses me the most about the Clip Zip is the RDS radio. I wish it had HD radio instead though. The Clip Zip looks like a nice player, however so far it doesn’t seem to me to be that much nicer than the Clip+. The Clip+ is indeed very tough competition. I guess I may buy a Clip Zip, but am not excited enough about it to rush to get one soon.
The color screen and AAC support will probably get many Shuffle owners to buy one. I am surprised that so many people care about album art.
@jk98 wrote:
I am surprised that so many people care about album art.
It amazes me too. I had several people this year tell me that the lack of it was what kept them from buying a Clip+, even though I was telling them they were missing out on such a great little player.
@marvin_martian wrote:
@jk98 wrote:
I am surprised that so many people care about album art.
It amazes me too. I had several people this year tell me that the lack of it was what kept them from buying a Clip+, even though I was telling them they were missing out on such a great little player.
Seeing the album art adds to the pleasure of listening to an album or even a single. I can tell what album I’m listening to, or want to listen to, just by looking at the album art and without the need to read the name.
@miikerman wrote:
The Clip Zip’s USB port uses the newer micro USB connection standard, as versus the older mini USB connection.
Thanks for clarifying - this would be an important factor for me! As long as it’s a *standard* connector I can buy at any random electronics store I’m happy, although I have about 10 mini-USB cables and no micro cables to date…
The Clip Zip is CUTE, but my question - did they re-engineer the “clip” on the Clip Zip? Although cracked, the clip on my original Clips are still usable, but the clip on one of my Clip+s snapped off within months of ownership and it’s not replaceable. I wasn’t impressed with the Clip+ clip.
@kmk_01kmk wrote:
Thanks for clarifying - this would be an important factor for me! As long as it’s a *standard* connector I can buy at any random electronics store I’m happy, although I have about 10 mini-USB cables and no micro cables to date…
Yeah its standard. Mini USB is being replaced with Micro USB, so going forward you probably won’t see many devices with Mini connectors.
the clip on the zip has been redesigned. it is not removable but it is stronger than the clip on the clip+ .
thats a bit of a tounge twister.
I use my Clip+ for listening to podcasts only.
Are the way podcasts organized still based on the ALBUM id3 tag? I always use a custom ALBUM tag to separate the podcasts, then under each ‘album’ there will be several episodes. On the Clip+, right after selecting podcasts, you see all of the ‘albums’, then select one to see the episodes. Does it still work the same way on the Clip Zip?
The Clip+ had a bug regarding using the bookmarked positions in a podcast. Say you have two episodes in a certain podcast. You play the second one half way through then stop. The bookmark is recorded behind the scenes. Then you play the first one all the way through. At the end it jumps to the second episode, at your previous spot. However, the time starts counting from 00:00 instead of the bookmark position. If you just keep listening all the way to the end, it’s not a problem. The problem only occurs if you interrupt playback and a new bookmark is created. The playback starts from the bookmark, but the timer does not. When you next stop the playback, it will record the TIMER’s position, effectively losing your real playback position. Can someone with a Zip try this out and see if it’s still happening?
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