HD tracks

[shuro]

First Post

I’m dl flac files from HD tracks.com that are rated 96 kHz/24 bit files.  Obviously, the bitrates are very high.  None of these will play on my Sansa Clip+.  The tracks are there, as are the files, but they are all skipped.  I’d appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks.

[tapeworm]

24 bit FLAC files aren’t supported, only 16. This thread may be of interest to you.

[shuro]

Thanks, Tapeworm, unfortunately, that answers my question.

[neutron_bob]

Indeed.  Think of it this way, you can convert to 16-bit FLAC for the device, or simply compress the files a bit by going with any one of the available formats, wma, mp3, or ogg.  It will sound great on the portable machine!  You’ll also have the advantage of more available memory space.

Ripping to a high bit rate mp3, like 256 or higher, you’d be hard pressed to discern a big loss in sound quality.  Save the highest resolution versions for playback on a larger system.

Bob  :smileyvery-happy:

[d_headshot]

@neutron_bob wrote:

Indeed.  Think of it this way, you can convert to 16-bit FLAC for the device, or simply compress the files a bit by going with any one of the available formats, wma, mp3, or ogg.  It will sound great on the portable machine!  You’ll also have the advantage of more available memory space.

 

Ripping to a high bit rate mp3, like 256 or higher, you’d be hard pressed to discern a big loss in sound quality.  Save the highest resolution versions for playback on a larger system.

 

Bob  :smileyvery-happy:

Why shouldn’t the fuze be able to support 24 bit though?

[moopig]

@d_headshot wrote:

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@neutron_bob wrote:

Indeed.  Think of it this way, you can convert to 16-bit FLAC for the device, or simply compress the files a bit by going with any one of the available formats, wma, mp3, or ogg.  It will sound great on the portable machine!  You’ll also have the advantage of more available memory space.

 

Ripping to a high bit rate mp3, like 256 or higher, you’d be hard pressed to discern a big loss in sound quality.  Save the highest resolution versions for playback on a larger system.

 

Bob  :smileyvery-happy:

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Why shouldn’t the fuze be able to support 24 bit though?

You would have thought it would be easy for the Clip+ to truncate the bottom 8 bits of 24-bit files and output them as 16-bit.  It’s probably got a 16-bit CPU, though, so maybe it’s not trivially easy because the intermediate calculations need to be 24 or 32 bits wide, but surely it’s not rocket science.

I just don’t want the hassle of having to identify which albums are stored on my computer as 24-bit FLAC and converting them to another, very slightly different, format specially for my portable audio player.  No electronic gadget is worth that much pampering.

moopig

Message Edited by moopig on 06-29-2010 05:30 PM

[saratoga]

@moopig wrote:

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@d_headshot wrote:

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@neutron_bob wrote:

Indeed.  Think of it this way, you can convert to 16-bit FLAC for the device, or simply compress the files a bit by going with any one of the available formats, wma, mp3, or ogg.  It will sound great on the portable machine!  You’ll also have the advantage of more available memory space.

 

Ripping to a high bit rate mp3, like 256 or higher, you’d be hard pressed to discern a big loss in sound quality.  Save the highest resolution versions for playback on a larger system.

 

Bob  :smileyvery-happy:

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Why shouldn’t the fuze be able to support 24 bit though?

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You would have thought it would be easy for the Clip+ to truncate the bottom 8 bits of 24-bit files and output them as 16-bit.  It’s probably got a 16-bit CPU, though, so maybe it’s not trivially easy because the intermediate calculations need to be 24 or 32 bits wide, but surely it’s not rocket science.

 

I just don’t want the hassle of having to identify which albums are stored on my computer as 24-bit FLAC and converting them to another, very slightly different, format specially for my portable audio player.  No electronic gadget is worth that much pampering.

 

 

The clip has a 32 bit CPU (ARM).  But even on 16 bit systems FLAC internally uses 32 bit precision for its filters.  The problem here isn’t the CPU, its just that the Sandisk decoder is buggy.  Install rockbox or convert your files to 16 bit.    

Message Edited by saratoga on 06-29-2010 08:52 PM