@jk98 wrote:
How fast is the card reader in the Clip Zip? Anyone here try writing to a class 10 card in it? How fast is it? With a class 10 card, i could only write to the card in a Clip+ at up to around 4.4M/s.
I only have a class 2 card, so I can’t help you.
Has anyone used the voice recorder or recorded off the radio? If so, how well does that work?
can the clock be turned off?
Can you listen to the zip while it charges? That was one thing I did not like about the fuze.
Dave
@tapeworm wrote:
@iwantoneofthose wrote:
can the clock be turned off?
No. Why?
It may seem weird but usually when I listen to music, I just don’t want to know what time it is. Now I’ll have to reconsider buying it.
The clock display isn’t obtrusive at all; in fact, I’d prefer the font used to be bolder than it currently is. All Sansas with larger displays have the time displayed in the upper-left corner, it’s quite convenient actually.
Regarding the write speed with the mounted microSD card, times I’ve been curious, 4.4MB/s is about par for the device. Personally, as convenient as the little guys are to work with, I’ve always used cards of 8GB or less, preferring to store those special files (music and books) on dedicated cards, rather than taxing the device with a huge library.
The big payoff is much faster refresh times following transfer. Also, running MTP mode speeds up the process considerably.
Bob 
"Regarding the write speed with the mounted microSD card, times I’ve been curious, 4.4MB/s is about par for the device. "
That is even with a class 10 card? I guess the reader is similar to the one on the Clip+. I was thinking they might have used something faster. Is writing to the internal memory also around 4.4 MB/s?
You’d have to run a speed test with a mounted card, using the Clip as the reader. The USB controller of the Sansa is the pipeline here, and the limiting factor of course.
I haven’t mounted a class 10 card to check, as class 4 has been fine. The h2testw application should work fine to benchmark the combination of card + reader (Clip).
Bob
“You’d have to run a speed test with a mounted card, using the Clip as the reader”
i’m asking because I don’t have a Clip Zip, and am hoping someone with a Clip Zip and a class 10 card could test this. I am curious since i sometimes use a card in my Clip+ for backup. with the Clip+, there is almost no benefit using a card faster than class 4. I am curious if it is the same with the Clip Zip. On my Fuze v1, there isn’t any benefit using it with a card faster than class 2.
@jk98 wrote:
“You’d have to run a speed test with a mounted card, using the Clip as the reader”
i’m asking because I don’t have a Clip Zip, and am hoping someone with a Clip Zip and a class 10 card could test this. I am curious since i sometimes use a card in my Clip+ for backup. with the Clip+, there is almost no benefit using a card faster than class 4. I am curious if it is the same with the Clip Zip. On my Fuze v1, there isn’t any benefit using it with a card faster than class 2.
The only class 10 cards I have are two full-size 4GB SDHC by Transcend…one is in my digital camera, and the other is in my netbook (which supports SDXC 
) being used for ReadyBoost.
The fastest microSDHC card I know of is the Mobile Ultra card, with a listed 15MB/s capability. With the Clip+ or Clip Zip, the fastest throughput is handy for a mass transfer (filling several GB of music in one session), but the only time I really run it through the paces is when transferring video files, using the Clip as the memory device.
As for the database refresh time with a large capacity card, the file parsing process is the limiting factor, as the Clip reads the individual files and pulls the metadata for sorting (genre / artist / song / album).
The Ultra cards are great for video capture, camera applications with high resolution photos in particular, where speed makes a big difference.
The Clip Zip and Clip+ should perform similarly, as the platform is virtually identical. My wife was amused this weekend while I played with display pixels, examining the display under a jeweler’s loupe. Some really tiny RGB vertical pixels there!
Bob :smileyvery-happy:
I found this forum because I’m having issues with bookmarking in podcasts. I have had every version of the clip for years, and really loved my old, basic clip. This new one with the bigger color screen is nothing but obnoxious. Instead of simply scrolling through menus as lists, I have to tab between full-screen icons of each menu. What used to take three clicks now takes six or twelve. I hate the new inferface (which someone hilariously called “streamlined” upthread), and am really irritated that it’s missing the track counter at the top of the screen.
Anyway, the first Clip Zip I had only lasted five weeks before simply locking up. There were a lot of irritating things about it, but at least it did keep the bookmark functionality when I wanted to switch between podcasts and be able to resume at the same spot later.
I went and exchanged it under warranty, brought the new one home and plugged it in, and it immediately updated the firmware. The new update seems to have removed the bookmark functionality, as now it no longer “remembers” my place in a podcast. Will Rockbox or some other third-party firmware restore this function? It’s heinously annoying to accidentally bump the “next” button and then have to spend several minutes scanning around for your place… or try to remember the next day where you were in the podcast you were listening to in yesterday morning’s workout. The first Clip Zip I had would indeed offer me the option of resuming playback or “new start”, but this one does not.
I spend a lot of time with podcasts and the Clip Zip. Running with the latest firmware, I have resume on all podcast files, with one notable exception that might be confusing, “podcast-hopping”.
The “resume from beginning” mask comes into play only when you navigate away from the current podcast, and reopen it directly. For example, if you tap the little “back” button in the upper left, the podcast episode list is available. If you choose a podcast episode from this list, you will get the “resume” option is the file has been partially played.
Now, let’s look at another way to navigate, “hopping”. I listen to three main epidodes daily from the BBC. Some days, I will not have a chance to listen to them all. On the next day, I can open the current cast, and if the narration is getting a little long for my liking, I can hop to the previous episode for a while, by tapping the << button. Guess what happens? The player will jump to the previous episode in one of two locations, either at the beginning (if the file has not been played), or the current position (bookmark) where I left off within that file if it has been played.
To make this a little easier to understand, tap the >> button to return to the pocast you were last playing. The Clip Zip will go directly to the point you last listened to within that file. Just like switching channels, but the player resumes at your last position within each file.
To hold with the restart from beginning / resume option, simply begin your navigation at the podcast episode list, using the button in the upper left.
During podcast playback, if you inadvertently hop to a previous episode, one tap on the opposite direction will jump right back to your last point.
Bob :smileyvery-happy:
I use a Patriot MicroSDHC Card 32 GB Class 10 LX Series with Clip Zip without problem.
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