12-08-2016 08:45 PM
OK, after changing cables, the computer finally recognized the Clip, oops, mine's a Clip Zip 4GB, but it may work on yours.
I used the computer to format the device, then after a couple tries, it started, and did not stick on refreshing media.
Used the manual firmware update procedure from my last post. Back in biz, only bummer is I have to reload the music, minor.