Easy boys . . . you both have good points and both could be a bit more considerate of the other.
dogoti -
Yes, there is a high volume of posts/posters here to try and keep up with. But you run into problems when there is more than 1 moderator. Just as you and Robisan seem to have different opinions, so do mods. One might move or lock a thread, but the other doesn’t agree and comes along behind and changes it back, or worse does something completely different. This subjects the members at large to a managerial tug-o-war and creates confusion and chaos amongst the masses.
I, and others here do our best to advise new members when they are posting in the wrong board. And for the most part, if they have anything further to contribute or ask, they usually heed the advice and post in a more appropriate setting. Every once in a while though, there will be someone who thinks that they know more about everything than anyone here and takes offense at our suggestions.
This type of attitude from a Newbie is normally viewed upon as very bad form from anyone who has been a forum member for any length of time. And this is how I believe Robisan took your 1st post and suggestions. Personally I didn’t see it that way; there have been far worse scenarios where someone joined and instantly proclaimed themselves our Savior who was going to rescue us from ourselves and all of SanDisk’s evils.
What you stated was true, The Fuze Firmware Update thread is a prime example of things getting out of control. I believe I even made a comment on this on page 19. Lately though, just before (and after) the much-talked about and anticipated 1st Quarter firmware update that didn’t happen on cue, a lot of bandwidth has been wasted with petty & senseless drival and conversation. A certain amount of this will always go on, threads do tend to drift off-topic sometimes at the drop of a hat, but usually someone will bring it back into plumb after some good-natured joking around or ‘side’ discussions.
While your vantage-point as a ‘newcomer’ gives you the clarity of impartial observation, you also have to realize that well-established members sometimes see these type of comments from someone new as arrogant, threatening, and pompous. Best to tread lightly until you get a ‘feel’ for the personalities around here and then, after you have several posts under your belt, your comments will be received more warmly and taken with more validity.
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Robisan -
Your reply to dogoti too was factual, but I think you were a little harsh in your delivery of your message. We have all seen far worse examples of N00Bs strutting in here and telling us we’re all wrong, or SanDisk s**ks, and we shouldn’t have to put up with it, or they are going to lead our crusade for us (whether we want them to or not) and topple the evil empire for us poor peons.
And I can see where dogoti’ s 1st post might’ve come off like that too, but I didn’t see the ‘tude’ behind what he said, like we have with some others.
And the elongated Fuxe Firmware Update thread? This has sort of taken on a life of it’s own. The latest goal I’ve seen on there is to reach 100 pages before the new firmware comes out. This is simply childish and definitely the wrong place for such an undertaking. It’s like how many people can you stuff in a phone booth? It’s fun and a challenge, but you shouldn’t attempt it just anywhere. Imagine if you just received your first Fuze and somehow found this forum. And without the knowledge that you have now, stumbled into this or another helpful thread and suddenly discovered all this extraneous, un-necessary chatter. You would probably wonder too, “Doesn’t this forum have any moderators?”
This thread also won’t be deleted or ‘retired’ per say when the new f/w is released. Although the posting traffic should slow down considerably. There will be a new post (and subsequent thread) started for the new release. The old one needs to stay on the forum for reference to the soon-to-be previous firmware version. As more and more new posts are added, this will fade further and further back amongst the pages and archives.