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Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?Options
09-30-2008 04:01 PM
But I doubt you're ever very far away from an AC outlet to plug in a charger? Sometimes yes, fishing, hiking, etc. in the boonies, but even then you can carry a USB charging device powered by . . . yep, your AA batteries. (Oh sh!t, I think I just made a point for you)
I don't buy this as an oversight on SanDisk's part. A firmware boo-boo? Definitely! But with the amount of time spent in R & D and testing before these things actually make it to market, somebody would have HAD to try & put more than 4000 songs on a player. And it's not exactly 4000. It varies; it's just around that number. So it probably has something to do with the processor and the amount of data it can read or something. If I knew what it was, I'd fix it! But first, I'd enter into a techinal independent contractor status with SanDisk and get paid for it!
Besides, they (SanDisk) knew going into this realm that with the SDHC micro-card the possible near-future total memory capacity would be 40GB (8GB on-board & 32GB SDHC card). And the Fuze is choking on less than half that? So the idea that they would have planned for a higher ceiling with the full-size card is just silly. They should have planned (key word: planned) for it regardless!
Anyway, good back & forth! Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?Options
10-05-2008 12:12 AM "But I doubt you're ever very far away from an AC outlet to plug in a charger?"
it is not about being far from an outlet for a long time, but remembering to recharge a player with a built in battery when it needs it, and leaving enough time to do so. Some chargers will charge up to 4 AA batteries in just 15 minutes.
"but even then you can carry a USB charging device powered by . . . yep, your AA batteries."
That seems very annoying. One would need 4 AA batteries to reach around 5 volts. If one could power the player from an external battery pack it wouldn't be so bad, but charging the internal battery from an external battery pack does not seem like a desirable thing to do.
"I don't buy this as an oversight on SanDisk's part. A firmware boo-boo? Definitely!"
Not really, as a 4000 or so song limit seems reasonable when the player can't hold more than 16 gigs, since most people use a bitrate of at least 128 kbps for their music. Having a 4000 or so song limit when 16 gig micro SD cards are available though, and the player could have 24 gigs of storage is not a good thing.
"Besides, they (SanDisk) knew going into this realm that with the SDHC micro-card the possible near-future total memory capacity would be 40GB (8GB on-board & 32GB SDHC card). "
They also knew they would have firmware updates before then.
"They should have planned (key word: planned) for it regardless!"
They did plan for it, they planned future firmware updates. Since they are a leading maker of micro SD cards, they know exactly when certain capacity cards will be available.
Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?[ Edited ]Options
10-05-2008 08:06 AM - edited 10-05-2008 08:14 AM Hey There JK98,
I agree. AA or AAA. I would like to see SanDisk put out a "flashless" drive player.
Modify the ImageMate Reader with an FM radio, and the firmware be able to play multiple video and audio formats (including OGG for those that want it) (less M4A/AAC of course), and view photos. Definitely increase the screen size so video is more viewable, 2.5? When you connect to a PC, I am thinking the double drive issues go away? Someone more tech savy can advise on that thought.
To me it seems like 2GB, 4GB, 8GB flash drive players are like a game. Fill them up with high quality mp3's, video's, and photo's and start buying cards for the expansion slot.
I purchased a 4GB micro SDHC Card from the SanDisk Store for my 8GB Fuze and it is packaged with the SanDisk Adapter, so the little Micro can play in a full sized SD/MMC slot. SanDisk sells so many different size cards at so many prices I do not know why they (sales/marketing) wouldn't find something like this a "home run".
I'm no programmer, copy right lawyer etc. and do not know what it would take to accomplish this. Perhaps there are restrictions which would make this prohibitive. As a consumer who prefers SanDisk products over the others, this is something I would like to see. Maybe there are others, maybe not.
I just purchased an E130 from Amazon for just this purpose. (should arrive this week). Although it is a discontinued model, it plays on 1 X AAA battery, has an FM Radio, with an "up to" 2GB full size expansion slot. (You Go SanDisk!) No video capability, but I think they WERE headed in the right direction.
This is my personal wish list, so let the bashing begin!
Regards
I forgot - yes on the AM for talk shows Message Edited by mstubie on 10-05-2008 11:14 AM
If you could only hear the voices in my head!
Primary Sansa - c240 Rockboxed, 8GB Micro SDHC Cards, Vorbis @ 6.25, 650mAh Battery, Sennheiser CX500 IEM Other Sansa's - 8GB Fuze, e280 v2, e130. Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?Options
10-05-2008 10:34 AM
Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?[ Edited ]Options
10-05-2008 10:44 AM - edited 10-05-2008 04:25 PM
SanDisk does indeed already make a AAA battery-powered mp3 player AND it has a full-size SD card slot. Just what you guys (edit: JK98 & vidra) have been asking for. It's called the SANSA SHAKER. It even comes in colors; blue for boys & pink for girls.
Also, the Sansa M series uses a AAA user-replaceable battery too. No card slot though. Message Edited by Tapeworm on 10-05-2008 04:25 PM
Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?Options
10-05-2008 11:39 AM
Hi Tapeworm,
No, I went with E130. I'm too old to Shake!
Later
If you could only hear the voices in my head!
Primary Sansa - c240 Rockboxed, 8GB Micro SDHC Cards, Vorbis @ 6.25, 650mAh Battery, Sennheiser CX500 IEM Other Sansa's - 8GB Fuze, e280 v2, e130. Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?[ Edited ]Options
10-05-2008 02:36 PM - edited 12-11-2009 12:39 PM "Has the cell-phone industry, who sells many, many more units than the DAP industry done this? "
Cell phones have a user replaceable battery, and spares are available. When was the last time you saw a cellphone that has a battery that is not user replaceable(besides the iphone)? When was the last time you saw a digital camera with a battery that is not user replaceable? Message Edited by JK98 on 12-11-2009 03:39 PM
Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?Options
10-05-2008 03:53 PM
And so do 4 of my Sansas (e200 series). Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?Options
10-05-2008 04:52 PM "And so do 4 of my Sansas (e200 series). "
Imo it seems like the E200 series might be discontinued soon, since the Fuze and the Clip seem to replace it. It also seems like it is not so easy to buy spare batteries for the E200 series at a low price. The E200 seems like it only supports up to 2 gig micro SD cards. Re: AA battery powered mp3 player?Options
10-05-2008 05:17 PM O'contrere, Pierre. While the e200 series' thunder is being replaced by the latest & greatest Fuze & Clip, I don't think it will be going anywhere for a while yet. As far as the batteries go, they are plentiful and in-expensive on Amazon and E-Bay, among other places. About $9 - $15 average.
And only the v1 e200 series only support up to 2GB cards natively. But you can install Rockbox on them & get the higher SDHC support (plus a lot of other features that even the Fuze doesn't offer). The v2's have the same processor as the Fuze & Clip and therefore DO support the SDHC cards as-is. I have an e280 (8GB) and a 8GB SDHC card. The card is filling up fast, so probably as soon as the price comes down a little on the 16 gig cards that just came out, I'll be picking one of those up and the 8 gig card will maybe go into one of my v1's if I install Rockbox. At that point, I'll have 24GB capacity and a vested interest and personal concern over this 4000 song (approx.) ceiling and will be anxiously awaiting a firmware fix. |