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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????

First of all, there is not much difference in Linux distributions when it comes to mp3 player support, imho. There is of cause many other reasons for people to choose and prefer a certain distribution - but this is not the ideal place to discuss it. And it will probably be of little help to the OP.

 

Back on topic. I believe, ext2/ext3 filesystems will never make it to a portable mp3 player because fat/vfat is a reasonable choice already. And it is well supported by Linux. The problem of renaming files/directories may well be related to the use of MTP mode connection (even on M$ systems). But even in MSC USB connection - which I use exclusively and without any such problem - I'd like to mention that there are several different mount options for vfat under Linux resulting in different file names.

 

What is your USB connection setting? How do you copy your files? How do you find/access them on the fuze?

 

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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????

This is strange. I use Linux Mint 7, which has the same insides as Ubuntu,  and Fuze without those problems, though I might be lucky not to use the files with dashes between numbers.
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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????



@ewelot wrote:

Back on topic. I believe, ext2/ext3 filesystems will never make it to a portable mp3 player because fat/vfat is a reasonable choice already. And it is well supported by Linux. The problem of renaming files/directories may well be related to the use of MTP mode connection (even on M$ systems). But even in MSC USB connection - which I use exclusively and without any such problem - I'd like to mention that there are several different mount options for vfat under Linux resulting in different file names.

 

What is your USB connection setting? How do you copy your files? How do you find/access them on the fuze?

 


I have Banshee mounting the Fuze as a USB storage device and the USB mode on the Fuze is "Auto".

 

The mount info looks like this:

/dev/sdd1 on /media/FUZE SDHC type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
/dev/sdc on /media/SANSA FUZE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)

 

 

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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????

The problems with your filenames might be beacause of how you're mouting the shares over the network. SMB for example will default to the lowest common denominator when it comes to filenames, such as all lowercase and no extended (supported) symbols. Try mounting the shares as CIFS instead of SMB, but this is all assuming your problems come from a Samba server sharing the music over your network (this is exactly how I do things), so this might be completely the wrong solution for the problem at hand.

 

Also, in this day and age of HAL, you shouldn't ever need to add a MP3 player to fstab, it should all be automagic.

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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????

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@gdanko wrote:


@ewelot wrote:

Back on topic. I believe, ext2/ext3 filesystems will never make it to a portable mp3 player because fat/vfat is a reasonable choice already. And it is well supported by Linux. The problem of renaming files/directories may well be related to the use of MTP mode connection (even on M$ systems). But even in MSC USB connection - which I use exclusively and without any such problem - I'd like to mention that there are several different mount options for vfat under Linux resulting in different file names.

 

What is your USB connection setting? How do you copy your files? How do you find/access them on the fuze?

 


I have Banshee mounting the Fuze as a USB storage device and the USB mode on the Fuze is "Auto".

 

The mount info looks like this:

/dev/sdd1 on /media/FUZE SDHC type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
/dev/sdc on /media/SANSA FUZE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)

 

 


Thanks for the info. At first I would recommend to preselect the desired USB connection mode. The "Auto" setting has been reported to possibly give some unexpected results, although I never tried by myself. If you intent to operate the fuze as an mp3 player (e.g. using amarok, rhythmbox or other MTP enabled applications) then you should select MTP mode. If you stick to simple MSC mode - as I do all the time - then setting MSC is highly recommended.

 

The only translation of file/directory names which happens on MSC USB connection is the handling of upper and lower case depending on the vfat mount options. Note that both reading and writing filenames can be affected and the appearance of file names on the fuze during folder browsing must not match the case of names visible on your mounted drive under Linux. This might well account for your first problem ("NOFX").

 

I get the best matches by "win95" mount option on file transfer to and from the fuze. I never used utf8 mount option. Note that I'm running my Linux box in de_DE.UTF-8 locale.

 

If you do not copy files with the cp command but instead run some sophisticated GUI application then there is a fairly good chance that the application does some file/directory renaming on the fly during ripping files off the CD and maybe on copying too. This could result in the removal of the "-" character. I don't use banshee, so you have to check its options by your own. Also I'd like to encourage you using cp to transfer some test files to the fuze and check if this works. Good luck!

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EDIT: I didn't insert the smiley above. And I don't see it inside the editor window. Strange ...  
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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????

The system automounts them. Theyre not in fstab,

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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????

Reformat the card by hand.

 

mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/mmcblk1p1

 

Make sure that's the right device name by checking dmesg Smiley Happy

 

Test some more, and if you still have any problems, zero the device (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk1), repartition, and then reformat it. If you still have troubles with the card, return it to the store.

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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????

Now this is a 16 gig card. FAT16 won't go beyind 2 gig right? Logic would say Linux is smart enough to make it FAT32.
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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????


@mngrif wrote:

Reformat the card by hand.

 

mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/mmcblk1p1

 

Make sure that's the right device name by checking dmesg Smiley Happy

 

Test some more, and if you still have any problems, zero the device (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk1), repartition, and then reformat it. If you still have troubles with the card, return it to the store.


Just to remind you - don't forget to have a backup of your data before formating the card! Personally I would prefer to do a filesystem check with fsck.vfat first.

 

@gdanko

Don't worry about the automounter. You can savely unmount the device and mount it again (as root) with the options YOU want. Later you might give some better hint to the automounter or add some static entry to the fstab file. As I said before, there should be no upper/lower case conversion in short and long file names if you choose the correct mount option and use the cp command.

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Re: ext3 filesystem on my sdhc card????

Remember, Banshee is transferring the data, not me. I am using Banshee to manage the music/podcasts, etc. I did as you suggested though,

mkfs.vfat -F32 -n +FUZE SDHC" /dev/sdc1