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Registered: ‎05-12-2010

Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update

In my opinion, it's not a problem with EU regulations but with BAD implementation by SanDisk!


 

What doesn't work for me with firmware V02.03.31 in EU configuration:

 

- bad Signal-Noise-Ratio with external amplifiers

 

- volume level of stereo equipment has to be maximum to get household noise level (switching to another source blows off my flat Man Mad)

 

- the 600 Watts active speakers I'm going to use for my birthday party can't fill the barbecue area because of low input from the FUZE

 

- the 30 Ohm passive speakers I use for falling asleep and wakeup just whisper (oversleeping included Man Mad)

 

 

Why not just adding a menuitem to switch the headphone output between "Headphones" (EU-limited level), Line (2V line level) and "Speakers" (maximum level)? And if SanDisks spends a alarm clock with a own playlist to the FUZE firmware, I'd be happy to use the FUZE with passive Speakers instead of an extra alarm clock!

 

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Registered: ‎05-25-2010

Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update

Thank you! Easy peasy
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Registered: ‎05-25-2010

Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update

I am unable to revert back to any firmware revision (Fuze v2)

 

 

The only time a firmware update occurs is when I place the .bin and .dat file from the 02.03.33 release onto the root of my player. Any official firmware other than this version or Rockbox will not install. Does anyone else have this problem?

 

I received the player today and updated to firmware 02.03.33 via Sansa Updater.

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Registered: ‎03-27-2010

Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update

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As most of you obviously don't know, the EU regulation was not to limit the max volume on mp3/mp4 players, but to make sure that users are aware of the risks to their hearing if they set the volume too loud. All that SanDisk should have done to comply with the EU regulation was to set the "normal" volume level as default, and if the user tried to change the setting to "high" a simple message popped up saying "listening at this level can cause hearing damage. Are you sure?", or something to that effect. But of course not, that would be too complicated, and why not go the easier way? Plus EU will get all the blame, so it's a win-win as far as SanDisk is concerned.
Message Edited by doccolinni on 2010-06-16 08:21 PM
Message Edited by doccolinni on 2010-06-16 08:24 PM
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Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update


doccolinni wrote:
As most of you obviously don't know, the EU regulation was not to limit the max volume on mp3/mp4 players, but to make sure that users are aware of the risks to their hearing if they set the volume too loud. All that SanDisk should have done to comply with the EU regulation was to set the "normal" volume level as default, and if the user tried to change the setting to "high" a simple message popped up saying "listening at this level can cause hearing damage. Are you sure?", or something to that effect. But of course not, that would be too complicated, and why not go the easier way? Plus EU will get all the blame, so it's a win-win as far as SanDisk is concerned.
Message Edited by doccolinni on 2010-06-16 08:21 PM
Message Edited by doccolinni on 2010-06-16 08:24 PM

It's not just SanDisk that have limited the volume, other companies are doing the same with their players. At least with our Sansas, we have the option to over-ride the limitation.

iPod Touch 5G 32GB, Touch 4G 32GB, Clip Sport 8GB.
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Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update


@Marvin_Martian wrote:

@doccolinni wrote:
As most of you obviously don't know, the EU regulation was not to limit the max volume on mp3/mp4 players, but to make sure that users are aware of the risks to their hearing if they set the volume too loud. All that SanDisk should have done to comply with the EU regulation was to set the "normal" volume level as default, and if the user tried to change the setting to "high" a simple message popped up saying "listening at this level can cause hearing damage. Are you sure?", or something to that effect. But of course not, that would be too complicated, and why not go the easier way? Plus EU will get all the blame, so it's a win-win as far as SanDisk is concerned.
Message Edited by doccolinni on 2010-06-16 08:21 PM
Message Edited by doccolinni on 2010-06-16 08:24 PM

It's not just SanDisk that have limited the volume, other companies are doing the same with their players. At least with our Sansas, we have the option to over-ride the limitation.


It's still not EU's fault, though.

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Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update

That's a first.  Remember the iPods pulled off the shelf in Germany?  It is their fault.  There's too much of that "nobody's fault" attitude these days.  Perhaps we should give them all a trophy in Brussels for showing up to work.  Legislators thrive on warm fuzzies.

 

Bob  Smiley Tongue

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Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update


@neutron_bob wrote:

That's a first.  Remember the iPods pulled off the shelf in Germany?  It is their fault.  There's too much of that "nobody's fault" attitude these days.  Perhaps we should give them all a trophy in Brussels for showing up to work.  Legislators thrive on warm fuzzies.

 

Bob  Smiley Tongue


Excuse me, I wasn't saying that it is "nobody's fault", I was just saying that it isn't EU's that the companies are too lazy to satisfy both the customers in Europe and the simple and reasonable guidelines set forth by the EU. Like I said, they should have just put the normal volume as the default and made the players display an appropriate warning when the user wants to change the volume to high.

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Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update

I think I'm sorry I suggested to 'sticky' this thread. I didn't know it was was going to turn into yet another off-topic argument!
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Re: Sansa Fuze - insufficient volume after firmware update


@Tapeworm wrote:
I think I'm sorry I suggested to 'sticky' this thread. I didn't know it was was going to turn into yet another off-topic argument!

I'm sorry, I'll shut up now. It's a useful thread, I don't want to ruin it.