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Registered: ‎06-20-2008

Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update

Ah....Compute! magazine....That was the life.  Spend 4 hours typing in a program and another two hours debugging it just to play a knockoff of pacman.

 

What was really funny was my first word processor was the one from Compute!  By that time, they had a small program you could type, save and run that was like a real time MD5 sum checker. They would publish the "sum" at the end of each line of code.  As you typed each line into your computer, a number would appear highlighted in red in the upper corner, and if your number matched that at the end of the line of code, your line was good.  This allowed you to debug in realtime and save a BIG hassle.

 

That word processor, I think, was one of the few programs that was SO BIG they offered it as a disk (for a fee), but "real men" typed it in.  I had 5 copies of that thing saved out and it served as my word processor for over two years in college.

 

The word processor was also one of the few programs they printed in machine code, so that MD5 checker was really a necessity.  The program would not have fit nor performed fast enough in BASIC.

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Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update


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I must say, the programming book that came with that TRS-80 was one of the best I've ever seen.  My father still speaks of it with fondness, and regret that more books aren't like that. 

 


 

Agreed on that.  Still have a copy somewhere in the mess...

 

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Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update


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Speaking of firmware upgrade: the TRS-80 level II came in a kit that provided 16Kb (4x RAM!) and a 2x speed improvement in the cassette interface (300 baud!).  We hacked our cassette player - a Realistic, natch - so we could hear the ones and zeroes being read in. You knew your program wouldn't load if it kept right past the silence to the next program.  Rewind, adjust the volume, and try again.  It was often faster to re-enter the program by hand.  The magazines at the time were 90% source code. Many of them stank, so you learned by debugging, then rewriting.
It's not that I MISS those days, but I do have fond memories.

 


 

Radio Shack sold a tape-based game called 'Defense Command' that used the cassette output to create recognizable speech synthesis at 300 baud.  Halo, Schmalo!  =)  Or string packing in 'Dancing Demon'.  Or having to load 'kbfix' from tape when you first booted up to sstopp tthhe ddannnggeed kkeey rrepppeaat...

 

I bought an LNW expansion interface to bring my TRS-80 up to 48 kb RAM and into the 5.25" floppy era.  Only $4 for a whopping 90 kb of rewritable storage!  (plus the $400 drive with a solenoid that could knock pictures off the wall.)

 

Still have a mostly complete set of '80 Micro' somewhere in the mess.  For a while a writer named David Busch (I think) had a humor column titled Kitchen Table Software that was the computer equivalent of Dave Barry.  (Goggling...)  OMG...

 

http://www.trs-80.org/80-microcomputing/

 

...I actually remembered the name ~and~ the spelling!  Close to three decades my brain cell can hang on to that, but can it remember where I just put my glasses or why the cat is yelling at me with her bowl in her paws?!?  Boheimers...

 

 

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Registered: ‎03-11-2009

Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update


@Bobqat wrote:

@Reviewboy wrote:


Speaking of firmware upgrade: the TRS-80 level II came in a kit that provided 16Kb (4x RAM!) and a 2x speed improvement in the cassette interface (300 baud!).  We hacked our cassette player - a Realistic, natch - so we could hear the ones and zeroes being read in. You knew your program wouldn't load if it kept right past the silence to the next program.  Rewind, adjust the volume, and try again.  It was often faster to re-enter the program by hand.  The magazines at the time were 90% source code. Many of them stank, so you learned by debugging, then rewriting.
It's not that I MISS those days, but I do have fond memories.

 


 

Radio Shack sold a tape-based game called 'Defense Command' that used the cassette output to create recognizable speech synthesis at 300 baud.  Halo, Schmalo!  =)  Or string packing in 'Dancing Demon'.  Or having to load 'kbfix' from tape when you first booted up to sstopp tthhe ddannnggeed kkeey rrepppeaat...

 

I bought an LNW expansion interface to bring my TRS-80 up to 48 kb RAM and into the 5.25" floppy era.  Only $4 for a whopping 90 kb of rewritable storage!  (plus the $400 drive with a solenoid that could knock pictures off the wall.)

 

Still have a mostly complete set of '80 Micro' somewhere in the mess.  For a while a writer named David Busch (I think) had a humor column titled Kitchen Table Software that was the computer equivalent of Dave Barry.  (Goggling...)  OMG...

 

http://www.trs-80.org/80-microcomputing/

 

...I actually remembered the name ~and~ the spelling!  Close to three decades my brain cell can hang on to that, but can it remember where I just put my glasses or why the cat is yelling at me with her bowl in her paws?!?  Boheimers...

 

 


What a walk down memory lane this has been!  What a treat.  Dancing Demon! Defense Command!  Those games where little blobs moved across the screen firing slow-moving pellets that gave me more nightmares than DOOM ever did.  the expansion box that helped you connect printers, add memory, connect disk drives, and that one connnector I never did figure out what it did.  In today's dollars, that was close to a six thousand dollar rig.
 Remember Pillbox?  The game that exploited the Model I's unshielded case so you could tune into an AM radio and hear the screen redrawing itself? (Couldn't watch television when the computer was on for similar reasons.  Ah, the frontier days of home computing...)  "it's not a bug, it's a feature!"  Folks exploited it to make music on that little box - I even had a piano app - long before there were sound cards.
 Relive the glory: TRS-80 emulators! http://www.discover-net.net/~dmkeil/index.htm

 

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Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update

A TRS-80 was my first computer as well. I was 6 y/o at the time and even I was able to read and follow that programming book and then learnt how to modify the examples to do what I'd like to with it.

It's just a shame that (at least in Australia) the available software and games and support from Tandy (we didn't have Radioshack in Australia) was so bad. I only had it for a year and then traded it in for a Commodore C64 with disk drive etc.

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Registered: ‎10-13-2008

Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update


@slotmonsta wrote:

OK guys, this tread is getting way off topic. This thread is intended for the discussion of the current firmware release. Please only post if you have questions or issues with this particular firmware release. There is a board dedicated to firmware suggestions so if your post is related to a wishlist or firmware suggestion please post your suggestion in the firmware suggestion board. This thread has become less and less useful because of the constant posting of unrelated comments and topics. Please keep things on topic.

 

The next firmware release passed QA this weekend and it will likely be posted early this week. We are working to get the new firmware released as soon as possible so please be patient.

 

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Don't mean ta' burst yo' bubble, but you guys are getting quite off topic. Might want to move your discussion to another thread.



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Registered: ‎09-28-2008

Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update

Are we there yet? (To a hundred pages):smileyvery-happy:
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Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update

Nope, 28% from there.
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Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update

No, not yet. But we still have some time. It's not here yet.Smiley Very Happy

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Re: Sansa Fuze Firmware Update


@slotmonsta wrote:

The next firmware release passed QA this weekend and it will likely be posted early this week. We are working to get the new firmware released as soon as possible so please be patient.

 

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slotmonsta


Well, it being Wednesday, 1:30pm PDT (SanDisk time) the early part of the week is officially over...

 

...Adding, Internet forum tech geeks being patient? Hahahahahahaha! That's a good one...