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SanDisk Guru
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Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

So many have expressed a wish for Sandisk players to be able to navigate by a choice of folders or tags, and to be able to disable tag navigation so that cards can be swapped without having to wait several minutes for the directory to be rebuilt.Why has Sandisk ignored this? I would think having this would encourage more people to buy multiple cards for their player. With the wait to rebuild the directory when a card is swapped, most people don't want to swap cards frequently.
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Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

 I thought it would be obvious by now that they're not going to add it. Every time I've seen anyone from SD talk about it, they play it down or mention that it probably won't happen. The time spent complaining about a lack of folder view could be put toward using ID3 tags like the rest of the people in this decade are doing - with that said, here's a player that might do what you're asking: http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/portable-mp3-player/trekstor-i-beat-cebrax-2-gb/

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." -Galileo Galilei
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Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

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I am not expecting the Fuze to support folder browsing(although that would be nice). It might be too hard to do. What I am hoping for though is that Sandisk incorporates browsing by folders into future players. Is the lack of folder browsing in the Fuze a sign that Sandisk wants to make its players as similar to ipods as possible? At first one might think yes, although the card slot and FM radio in the Fuze makes one think that Sandisk does want to stand apart from what Apple offers and not just compete on price or sound quality. On the other hand, a proprietary connector and built in battery that is not user replaceable are negative attributes that the Fuze shares with ipods. I am tired of spinning the wheel on my Fuze, and hate having to edit and correct tags. My old mp3 player navigates by folders, and I often use it rather than my Fuze since I greatly prefer navigating by folders. The old player has only a gig of storage though, and no card slot. It does use a AAA battery though. When will I be able to get a AAA battery based player that navigates by folders, has a card slot, a display, and sound quality equal to the Fuze(that exclude the Slotmusic player due to its lack of a display and lower sound quality).
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SanDisk Senior User
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Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

Why not just use playlists and ID3 tags, or buy a product that has the features you want?
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." -Galileo Galilei
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Registered: ‎12-02-2008

Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

JK, I don't think any new players will go back to use AAA battery.  The trend is to make the unit as thin as possible, so the only way to do it is with built-in battery.  I think if Sandisk is trying to capture the market like what the ipod did, they will miss it.  There are tons of competition out there, and many of them already offer file browsing capabilities, so I don't think this function is difficult to implement.  I also wondering how a product specification is being made, probably by a few people who does not know what the market wants and have not done any market research.  It is good to Sandisk now as people are still complaining.  But consumer will eventually walk away silently.

 

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Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

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"Why not just use playlists and ID3 tags, or buy a product that has the features you want? "

 

None exist that have all the features I want. So few players even have a card slot. Finding one that browses by folders, has a user replaceable battery with inexpensive spare batteries(AA or AAA battery preferred),  that plays 16 kbps mp3 and WMA files, and  has bookmarks seems to be almost impossible. i also want both AM and FM radio, although I could carry a separate radio for that. Another thing I want is a microphone jack and advanced recording features(mp3 recording, record level setting, etc.).

 

I am tired of editing and correcting tags. Even after wasting so much time doing this, it is hard to be sure that all the podcasts are where I want them, and that I listened to all the podcasts in a certain series. With folder browsing, I can just put them all in a folder and play the entire folder. Tagging all the files in a folder with the same album name isn't exactly the same thing, and sometimes there are unexpected results and not all the files sort as predicted. Setting up playlists seems very annoying.

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Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

 "JK, I don't think any new players will go back to use AAA battery. The trend is to make the unit as thin as possible, so the only way to do it is with built-in battery. I think if Sandisk is trying to capture the market like what the ipod did, they will miss it. There are tons of competition out there, and many of them already offer file browsing capabilities, so I don't think this function is difficult to implement"

 

Many? Actually very few, especially when those without a card slot are excluded. There are so many mp3 player models, however most are so similar. While the trend might be to have a thin player that plays videos, not everyone wants that. Having some models like that is okay, but other models shouldn't be so thin, should exclude video, and should use a AA or AAA battery. The Sandisk Slotmusic player uses a AAA battery, however it lacks a display, and the sound quality is lower than that of the Fuze or Clip. Why couldn't they have added a basic display, and had sound quality equal to the Clip?

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Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

I know what to give JK98 for Christmas!  Some AA or AAA batteries!!

 

Bob  Smiley Tongue

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Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?


I am tired of editing and correcting tags. Even after wasting so much time doing this, it is hard to be sure that all the podcasts are where I want them, and that I listened to all the podcasts in a certain series. With folder browsing, I can just put them all in a folder and play the entire folder. 


Oh, podcasts.  Some I subscribe to just can't seem to manage consistant tagging from week to week.  Another repeats file names so the podcast program keeps downloading multiple episodes of the same filename that overwrite each other.  Somehow the current episode never survives the process and I end up with one that came out the same day of the month but from 6 months or a year ago.  THe beauty of the concept is it's supposed to be automatic, but somehow so often requires manual work.
 

 

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Re: Sandisk's attitude towards folder navigation?

"I know what to give JK98 for Christmas!  Some AA or AAA batteries!!"

 

LOL! I still have some AA alkaline batteries that I paid around 11 cents each for over two years ago. They are Maxell alkaline batteries in packages of 48. The store sold them for $10 a pack, but then had a 2 for 1 sale and I loaded up on them. Only around 10% of them are left.  The AAA alkalines cost me around 25 cents each, or more than 5 times the price per watt hour of power. Before you criticize me for not using rechargeables, I also have nimh rechargeables which I use in my digital camera. The AA batteries are mostly given to homeless people, although I do use some myself, and give some to friends.