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Posts: 15
Registered: ‎06-05-2014

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

Tapeworm, you've covered a lot of territory!

The recognization problem is opposite of what you're saying.  The older files which were put on in Auto Detect are the ones that are seen.  Some of the ones put on since I changed to MSC are the ones which are not seen.

(I honestly believe the card itself is limiting the number of songs!)

 

I've been using  Tag& Rename all along for the ID3 tags----But I do notice that the file and folder pictures do not appear on the new songs added to the player.  also in terms of the card...Many times I have to remove it for my Fuze to start because for some reason it doesn't like it and freezes  I simply eject it and reinsert to force a refresh.  Then it recognizes it.

 

More evidence it doesn't like the class 10 card?

 

Interestingly most if not all of the invisible songs had existing ID3 tags, which I only added pictures to. 

 

I think my next step is to either get a class 4 card, or should I try Rockbox first?

Thanks again!

 

P.S.  I've been using the player for the last 3 hrs, and it is as dependable as ever.

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 16,305
Registered: ‎04-17-2008

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

 


@Bracarsha wrote:
 

I've been using  Tag& Rename all along for the ID3 tags----But I do notice that the file and folder pictures do not appear on the new songs added to the player. 



Many people have reported issues with Tag & Rename. If you're using Windows, MP3Tag is the resounding and unchallenged favorite tag-editing software.

 


@Bracarsha wrote:

also in terms of the card...Many times I have to remove it for my Fuze to start because for some reason it doesn't like it and freezes  I simply eject it and reinsert to force a refresh.  Then it recognizes it.

 

More evidence it doesn't like the class 10 card?

 


 

Yep.

 


Bracarsha wrote:

 

 

Interestingly most if not all of the invisible songs had existing ID3 tags, which I only added pictures to. 

 

 



We've heard problems where tags could not be read if the tag had embedded album art and the image was too big. 500 x 500 pixels and under and 100kb or less in size is the maximum you want to go with.

 

Or you don't have to embed the image in the tag at all. One .jpg (yes, it has to be this format) in the folder named "album art.jpg" or "folder.jpg" (without quotes) with the music will be dispalyed on the screen for all the files in that folder. This works well if you have your music organized by album, but not if you have a mix of different artists and/or albums in the same folder. For that, you'll want to embed each ID3 tag.

 


@Bracarsha wrote:

 

 

I think my next step is to either get a class 4 card, or should I try Rockbox first?

Thanks again!

 

 



There's nothing worng with Rockbox, some people like it. But if you prefer the simplicity of the Fuze and its original firmware and UI I would try a Class 4 card. You can always try Rockbox later.

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Posts: 15
Registered: ‎06-05-2014

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

I plead guilty!!

Although most of my art is 200x200 (or so)...once in awhile I get lazy, and let it go when it's bigger!!!

I will switch to MP3Tag.  I do like the original Fuze firmware.  I will switch to a class 4 card and get back to you!

Thank you so very much Tapeworm!

Newbie
Posts: 15
Registered: ‎06-05-2014

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

I got a Sandisk 16GB Class 4 card tonight, formatted it fat32, and started putting music on it.

Once more after loading around 8GB, I received the message that the disk was full.

 

Evidently I need to redo everything using MP3Tag, and be careful about

the size of graphics. 

 

Tapeworm, since I have each album in its own folder should I just use a graphic

for the album and not use any for the individual files?

Newbie
Posts: 15
Registered: ‎06-05-2014

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

Is it possible that the album AND file pictures are looked at as files by the Fuze?

(almost all of the songs have both file and folder pictures)

Why else would I reach the same limit on 16gb and 32gb cards?

I don't think the cards are full but rather the Fuze can't accept any more data.

Maybe that translates into a problem with Tag & Rename?

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 1,265
Registered: ‎04-24-2009

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

The error is in windows right when you copy the files? If so the tags don't matter yet. You mentioned files not appearing after the card is removed. Maybe a fake card? Hopefully you bought these from a legit retailer.
Newbie
Posts: 15
Registered: ‎06-05-2014

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

I don't think it is a windows error at all.

The card in my Fuze is acting as though it is full.

The files with the questionable tags produced by Tag&Rename are on the card.

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 2,954
Registered: ‎09-06-2008

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

Install mp3tag and allow it to add to context menus, an option during install. Set Write to ID3v2.3 ISO-8859-1. 

 

The Fuze does NOT read ID3v2.1 tags, which may have been coming out of Tag & Rename. It also does not read ID3v2.4 tags.

 

Simply by opening a folder/album (right-click for the context menu), highlighting all files and Save (under files) you can fix the version.

 

You can also very efficiently dump the album art. Highlight all the files and if the album cover shows up in the Mp3tag window, go to View, Extended Tags. Hit the little floppy icon to save the art as folder.FILETYPE. Hit the X to remove the imbedded art.

 

If you're lucky, the art you saved will be folder.jpg and you're done.

 

If the art was a .png or .bmp instead, it will save as folder.png or folder.bmp. You can open that in Windows Paint, resize it if it's too big and save it as folder.jpg. You might want to dump the bigger .png or .bmp file, or make sure that when you transfer the album that you delete folder.png from the Fuze.  

 

There is an upper limit on the size of the database that displays songs on the Fuze. Longer filenames and more tag into will fill it up faster, and you may well hit that limit before you fill a 32GB card.

Newbie
Posts: 15
Registered: ‎06-05-2014

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

Stupendous!

THANK YOU!

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 16,305
Registered: ‎04-17-2008

Re: Only able to use 8gigs of my 32gig micro card

saratoga makes a good point here. Many (if not all) of the counterfeit 32GB cards use an actual 8GB card that is hacked to appear on the surface as 32GB . . . until you go to fill it up or use that extra space.

 

You can test the card with h2testw (free). It will tell you if you have a hacked card or if there is some defect.