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Newbie
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Registered: ‎07-16-2008

My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

I just purchased my SanDisk Sansa Fuze 4gb on Sunday, July 13. I was very excited that I could use it on my mac and my pc, because I have itunes on both and different music on both. I used the drag and drop feature [after converting the music from AAC to MP3, of course] to add the music to my Fuze's music folder. I have added about 200-250 songs, maybe. When I turned it on this morning it said "Not enough space for music DB. Please free 90 mb" But... isn't this supposed to hold about 1,000 songs? Can I still return it if I've used it? What do I do? PLEASE HELP! You can email me at littleluck09@yahoo.com if you want. Thanks!

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Registered: ‎04-18-2008

Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

It should hold around a 1000 songs of relatively low bit rate mp3.  You didn't specify what sort of mp3s you have.  If they are high bit rate CBR, then 250 might be reasonable.

 

Also, if you are adding files from both your PC and your Mac, then the issue could be MTP versus MSC.  If you left Fuze's USB mode at the default setting of Auto, then it's probably using MTP mode when connected to your PC.  The Mac will use MSC mode. Files added under a given mode are only visible when connected under that mode.  In other words, files added from your PC will not be visible to the Mac and vice-versa.  I would suggest formating the Fuze, setting the USB mode to MSC, and then readding your files.  As long as you are always in MSC mode, your PC and Mac will both be able to see the same files on the Fuze.

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Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

Thanks. but how can I tell if it's a high rate CBR? I just used the convert to mp3 thing on itunes. I have only gotten music from my Mac so far, though.
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Registered: ‎10-24-2007

Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

Somteime if the Devices FAT is corrupted you will get this message.  Please connect to your computer and format the device.  Then transfer the content again.
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Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

Um... wtly does formatting do? Just wondering.
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Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

**what exactly does formatting the sansa fuze do? Lol. sorry, my typing skills are not so good.
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Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting

 

basically formatting rebuilds the file allocation table and erases all the data on the drive.

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Registered: ‎04-17-2008

Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!


@mcarter wrote:

 When I turned it on this morning it said "Not enough space for music DB. Please free 90 mb" But... isn't this supposed to hold about 1,000 songs?


Look at #3 under General FAQ's here. I believe what you are describing is the same problem even though the "numbers" may be different.

 

By the way, when they say "holds 1,000 songs" what they mean is "you might get 1,000 songs on it if all the of songs are ripped at a max of 128kbps (very low) and none of the songs are over 3 minutes in length!" It's kinda like the posted gas mileage on new cars. That's what they could squeeze out of them on the dynomometer, but on real roads, in real traffic, sitting at real 5 minute stoplights, "Your mileage may vary!"

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Registered: ‎07-16-2008

Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

Thanks again. I fixed it by reformatting it. and btw: I know it won't actually always fit exactly 1000 songs, but I would like to add that 200 is no where near 1000.

 

Thanks, 

Mcarter

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SanDisk User
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Registered: ‎07-25-2007

Re: My 4gb Sansa Fuze Isn't holding more than 250 songs. HELP!

Ah, yes, 200 songs is nowhere near 1,000 songs.  But try not to get stuck on “how many” songs.  Look at actual file size.  Depending on bit rate and file compression, it is very easy to have a 2 minute song file of high bit rate that is much larger than a 7 minute song file of a lower bit rate.  Remember, you are storing files, not songs...

 

It is a sort of marketing faux pas for these companies to quote how many files any storage medium can hold, as most users either do not understand or simply do not read the added disclaimers explaining specific file and storage conditions.

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