MTP - MSC, WMP, Winamp, drag and drop nothing works for me to create playlists!!!

Ah, you fed the Lil Monsta first.  This is OK, but the Fuze may have issues finding the files if they aren’t properly tagged with ID3v2.3 ISO-8559-1 tags.

Do the music files show up properly while navigating on the device?

The Fuze recognizes a wide variety of bitrates, as long as the files are mp3 or wma format.

What you’ll need to do is take the folders you’ve created, and modify the ID3 field data as desired, to group the files if you wish.  If the files are grouped in folders, you can extract the files (or pull them from the same source if available on your PC) and work on them with MP3Tag , available free for download.

I haven’t tried this, but it may be possible to modify the files on the device, then save them back on the Fuze, and delete the file mtable.sys in the root directory before exiting and disconnecting the Fuze. What I am hoping will happen is that the original ID3 tag database will be rebuilt using your edited tags.

I mention this workaround, since you’ve already loaded 2000 files on the device.

The sticking issue is the “default mode” used when you loaded your music.  The Fuze will default to MTP mode out-of-the-box, unless your operating system data queued the Sansa to open a communication session in MSC mode, in Auto Detect.

The likelihood is strongest that, since you mention WiMP11, MTP is the mode of choice.  The mtable.sys file in the root directory isn’t seen in MTP mode.

Have you tried synchronizing your Fuze with WiMP11?  The synchronization process can work in reverse, pulling songs from the device into your media player’s library.  Once there, you can use the “advanced tag editor” to correct the tags, but MP3Tag can work on whole batches of similar files for you, or it can even take your whole collection of, say, ID3v2 tags and rewrite them all as 2.3 with the correct character set.

WiMP can allow you to generate playlists on the PC and send the .pla playlist file over to your Sansa. (No, the files are NOT duplicated in a teeny .pla file, it’s only a list of files!)

Lastly, while connected in MTP mode, navigate to the Music folder.  You can generate playlists at will, especially while they are already on the device, using Windows Explorer in MTP mode. Choose a desired file, right-clicking Create Playlist.  Rename this playlist as desired, and open it.  Now, drag and drop all of your desired titles into this list box.  Please note!  You aren’t actually dragging the files into the list, just the TITLES are going in there- how cool is that!

Two tricks with batches of files:  If you have a list, holding the [shift] key down will allow you to pull every file between two clicks as a group, or holding [Ctrl] will allow you to group each individual file clicked until [ctrl] is released.  then, drag one of the selected files to the playlist, and all selected files will follow.

I prefer to drag these new playlists into the Playlist folder, making them easier to locate later, versus searching the multitudes of files in the Music folder.

Bob  :smileyvery-happy: