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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

Ah, let's stir this pot a wee bit.

 

I had a thought after reading "comparing a bicycle to a Cadillac".

 

Okay then, read this page about expensive bicycles.  Granted, there may be some really nice Cadillacs out there (I will completely forego that rebadged GMC truck called the "Escalade" from my list, what a horrible tank!), but it boils down to personal preferences, I think.

 

Each player has its strong attributes, and its weaknesses.  Regarding the Touch, it's an interesting beast, to say the least.  The big display, a nice expanse of real glass, is nice to work with.  But let's look at the whole machine, shall we?  It's an iPhone with a whole collection of bits and pieces (the phone section) robbed from the device.  Hardly an innovation, just a different set of components.

 

My hat's off to Apple, who have convinced folks it's handy to place a huge device against the side of one's head, making it fashionable to have a device reminiscent of this thing (hey, I had one back in the day too!):

 

 

Hey, while I'm in rant mode, I have two friends with broken face glass panels, on the new iPhone 4- is this going to be common?  It's just under $200 to fix this, holey moley!

 

I actually do like the overall design of the new Apples, but have strong reservation with the "device for the masses" marketing hoopla that follows all things Apple.  Sorry, I cannot be yet one more of the lemmings running for that cliff, or giving an impromptu interview with the local news, explaining why I was camped out all night at the Apple store.  You can't sling "fan boi" out there when these guys exist, now that's dedication, I guess.  It's something pretty hard to quantify, to say the least.

 

If the Touch is your cup-o-tea, I can't fault your choice, it's a nice machine.  I prefer coffee, incidentally.  And a smaller device.  Then again, what do I know?  I also prefer a basic Nokia with two simple red and green call and end buttons.  If it's going to be a phone, especially a radiotelephone, sound quality and RF performance are my criteria. 

 

I think I'm more turned off by Steve Jobs' performance than Apple's devices.  Talk about eccentric.  The iPhone demo where he got a little hissy over having a clean WiFi connection was a case in point, now that was good stuff.  Later, the embroglio over the "lost" prototype that wandered over to Gizmodo was, well....

 

Bob  Smiley Tongue

 

 

 

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

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My main point isn't that the Clip+ is a terrible machine.  It does everything it is supposed to do; and with rockbox it would serve my needs quite well, if it weren't so darn tiny.  In a pinch, I'll use mine, if I want to struggle using it's small controls; but with it's short battery life and small design, it will never be my favored player.


I've had my Touch for a month or so now, and haven't discovered any weaknessness for the way I use a player.  It's size is about perfect, the controls work flawslessly, it sounds great and the 40+ hr. battery life is just what I want in a unit.  I don't use the telephone, so I have no use for that feature in a unit.  So, for me, I believe I've found my ideal player (for me).


It's great that people like the Clip series of players; but for some, like myself, smaller is not better.


And frankly, I really can't offer any sympathy to anyone dumb enough (or careless) to break the front panel glass in their unit.  Maybe I treat my players with a bit more respect than the average user.  I dunno.  In all the years I've had handheld or portable devices, I've never had a single breakage.


I just know this...I really think that Sandisk is on the right path with the current Fuze+.  If the Clip+'s successor is of similar design and size factor of the current model, I will gladly pass on the opportunity to own one.

"Before I sink into the big sleep...I want to hear the scream of the Butterfly"
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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?


@fuze_owner-GB wrote:


It's great that people like the Clip series of players; but for some, like myself, smaller is not better.


Yep, you've said that many time here.  I'm not sure why someone goes to a manufacturer's forum to state (repeatedly) that he doesn't like the manufacturer's product, but I guess it's a hobby.   Smiley Wink   

 

For some of us (I guess we don't have large fingers), the size is just great for many uses (exercising, around water in a waterproof pouch, not having to worry about where to store the player, easy transfer of files via a microSD card and without the need for a computer (as stated above), etc.), without fear of damaging a larger player (like a touch).

 

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

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@Miikerman wrote:

@fuze_owner-GB wrote:


It's great that people like the Clip series of players; but for some, like myself, smaller is not better.

 


 

Yep, you've said that many time here.  I'm not sure why someone goes to a manufacturer's forum to state (repeatedly) that he doesn't like the manufacturer's product, but I guess it's a hobby.   Smiley Wink   

 

For some of us (I guess we don't have large fingers), the size is just great for many uses (exercising, around water in a waterproof pouch, not having to worry about where to store the player, easy transfer of files via a microSD card and without the need for a computer (as stated above), etc.), without fear of damaging a larger player (like a touch).

Oh, mr. outta here is back..  No surprise.


The only way manufacturer's are going to change their products, is by actually listening to customer complaints.  If they don't, it's their loss, not mine.


Not that I need your approval, but since I own a Clip+, I have every right to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the clip+ is corrected.  Oh, and if I ruffle your feathers along the way, all the better....Smiley Very Happy

 

PS.  I guess you were too busy listening to yourself talk to notice that I really, really like the Fuze+.  Best Sansa product I've ever owned....


 

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

I must agree with you, GB, they're on the right track with the Fuze+ in terms of overall size and function.  The AMS device platform has a major edge with handling the music database, currently.  Solving that, and making the new machine boot as rapidly as the Clip+ does, would be wonderful.

 

I'll more than gladly sacrifice a few MB of memory to that end.

 

As we're mentioning "touch" in this thread, getting the touchpad refined on the Fuze+ will be a huge stride in the right direction, as the machine has great potential.

 

Bob  Smiley Tongue

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

Cycling the last few days, I've been listening to a few backlogged BBC NewsPod episodes.  On the go, you really can't beat the little Clip+.  I like to run the headset cable down my jacket sleeve, with the device on my wrist like a watch.

 

When the rain picks up, I simply move it to the jersey sleeve, with the Clip protected under the rain jacket.  It's the one time when I run with the bud in my right ear only.

 

The controls are wonderful for this application, a limitation of the Fuze+, as the bigger machine is cumbersome on the fly.

 

I had forgotten how the Clip+ functions with the podcast "paused", if the forward button is held, the device zooms through the episodes rapidly, and when returning to your 'cast, it starts at the saved point immediately.  Quite handy.

 

Every time I boot the wee Clip+, I can't help but compare the response against the Fuze+.  This little thing is refreshingly fast.

 

Bob  Smiley Tongue

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

 


@neutron_bob wrote:

I must agree with you, GB, they're on the right track with the Fuze+ in terms of overall size and function.


Except audiobooks, right?  I don't own the Fuze+, as the posts in that forum seemed to indicate it's a step backwards from the more dedicated OverDrive audiobooks support of the Fuze/Clip+/Clip.  Yes, there are workarounds, but not as nice as the Fuze's more direct support.  Is that correct?  Or should I reconsider the Fuze+ for spoken word?  I had read somewhere that the Fuze+'s firmware was based on the Sansa View's.

 

 

[Apologies if this question is too OT.]

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

 


@fuze_owner-GB wrote:

 


I have every right to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the clip+ is corrected. 

 

 

I reread this thread to find out what you think is the major design flaw you want corrected.  It seems it's the small size, which doesn't work for you.

 

But why would you want that "corrected?"

1. Fuze.  That's functionally a big Clip+.   Problem solved, no?

2. Let's say you don't like the Fuze as a Clip+ "correction."  You just want a bigger Clip+.  So despite others loving the Clip+ exactly for its small size, you want us to have no such choice, and that market to be crushed? 

 

Really, if you bought the Clip+ sight unseen, it was probably for a better internet price--you takes your chances.  It's time to sell on eBay.

 

 

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

The View firmware is different, in mi4 format, using the NVIDIA chipset.  The Fuze+ solves many problems experienced with the earlier device, having a nice display for video, and it's more open to various video sources.

 

The Fuze+ uses the Freescale processor, a new device for the Sansa, with firmware in the sb format.

 

I like the seamless way the AMS processor Sansas handle audiobooks, this includes the two Clips, the e200v2, and the original Fuze.

 

For the Fuze+, development and "tweaking" of the interface is ongoing, just like the previous models when they debuted.

 

If you have a look at the motherboard of the View, its population of chips is stunning, it has a lot of hardware in there.

 

Bob  Smiley Tongue

 

 

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

Thanks much, neutron_bob.  Always appreciate your knowledgeable posts.  Will be reconsidering the Fuze+, esp. for its bigger 2.4" screen and more standard video support (there's probably a V-mate format that will allow me to pop in a recorded card and play).