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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

 


mags1230 wrote:

Miikerman wrote:

Actually, I'm very happy with the gift/player, and look forward to using it for the apps side and having music on it.  But it was interesting to me that I kept on thinking when I got it, but where's the slot?  An easy way to expand the memory by a tidy 16GB at limited expense ($20-$25 or less, at this point)--an extra 16GB always is nice to have.   Smiley Wink

 

And yep, part of the marketing strategy by Apple, I believe--why allow users to buy their own memory and expand their players when you can get them to buy a new player instead?  Part of the Apple strategy of a new player a year (as Steve stated publicly, once--consumerism run rampant)--I remember reading years ago of features that the company already had developed but only wanted to trickle on out, to spur periodic upgrading by comsumers.

 

A perfect opening for SanDisk, and making me more thankful for the Sansa slot!   Smiley Happy


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Congrats on getting an ipod touch.  It's certainly loaded with features and I agree that having a micro card slot could only improve it even more.  

 

IMO, in addition to what you mentioned in your post, Apple wouldn't add in a card slot because they want more consumers to pay for the larger capacity models.   If I were looking to purchase an ipod touch, and it had a micro card slot, I would only buy the 8 gb model since I have a 32gb card, instead of going for the 32gb or even the 64gb one, which would result in a loss of profit for Apple.


 

Well, we should give them credit for being clever businessmen/women, rather than bash them.....they still manage to sell more expensive players than Sansa, at a far greater rate, even in the failing economy that we've had.


 I personally think it would be foolish to buy the 8GB, rather than spend a little more for the 32GB model. Now I know the cynics out there are going to chime in with, "that's because Apple wants you to buy a more expensive player", but I'd be willing to bet the 8GB model is their biggest seller, regardless. The great unwashed masses out there aren't concerned with carrying around their entire library of music, like many of us are.....but they like cool toys. And even the 8GB Touch could still hold quite a few songs in 128kbps m4a format (which actually sounds surprisingly good for the size). Smiley Surprised


Which Touch will I end up with, the 32GB or the 64GB? I don't know.....depends on how my personal economy goes over the next couple months, and how patient I am. But I will be buying one.Smiley Tongue

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

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I'm pretty active on the ilounge forums and the talk is that the 8GB Touch(for most users) is not too popular simply because of it's lack of storage.  By the time you get your favorite apps loaded, there really isn't much room for much else.  For people not in the know, or are gift giving, the 8GB probably sells reasonably well.....For more savvy or former iPod users, the larger capacity models are preferred.

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

Well, if the 8GB touch is selling well, it's likely the cost of the more capacious--these things are not inexpensive.

 

And really, comparing the $45 Clip (8GB) to the $200 touch?  Isn't that like comparing a VW Beetle to a decked-out Jaguar?  And even then, the touch can't compare to the small handiness of the Clip (and the sound?).  They're simply different beasts entirely.

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

 


@Miikerman wrote:

Well, if the 8GB touch is selling well, it's likely the cost of the more capacious--these things are not inexpensive.

 

And really, comparing the $45 Clip (8GB) to the $200 touch?  Isn't that like comparing a VW Beetle to a decked-out Jaguar?  And even then, the touch can't compare to the small handiness of the Clip (and the sound?).  They're simply different beasts entirely.


 

If comparing the Clip+ to a Touch is an unfair comparison, the only one to blame for starting said comparison is you! Smiley Tongue You started the thread, here in the Clip/Clip+ board, rather than say, the Anything Goes board, which would seem more appropriate.


There are people out there who think the Touch sounds better than the Clip+. I haven't had the chance to compare them fairly....the one time I got to play with a Touch for a few minutes, I found out it was loaded with lossy -->lossy transcodes, from 160 down to 128, so as to be able to fit more songs. So even though I had some of the same songs on my Clip+, my files were not downsized. I do, however, look forward to the chance to compare in the future.

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Rockbox-> Clip Zip 4GB, iPod Nano 2G 4GB, iPod 5.5G 80GB
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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

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@Miikerman wrote:

Well, if the 8GB touch is selling well, it's likely the cost of the more capacious--these things are not inexpensive.

 

And really, comparing the $45 Clip (8GB) to the $200 touch?  Isn't that like comparing a VW Beetle to a decked-out Jaguar?  And even then, the touch can't compare to the small handiness of the Clip (and the sound?).  They're simply different beasts entirely.


Your opinions, and very biased ones at that...Smiley Very Happy

 


For me, the clip or clip+ is practically useless because it's too small to be operated in an effecient manner with my large hands.  I've got players from all the major makers and the Touch sounds every bit as good as any of them, including Sansa products.


But you are right, there is no one perfect player for everyone.  If someone were to give me a Clip series player, I would either have to find it a good home or try to exchange it for a player that I would actually use.

 

PS. For my uses, I think my comparison of a Clip+ to a Touch is more accurate (from an earlier post in this thread)......

Go ahead and be thankful for your almighty slot....For me, it makes nary a difference.  Sure, a slot in a Touch would benefit some; but even without a slot, comparing a Clip+ to a Touch is like comparing a bicycle to a Cadillac. 


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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

Actually, my opinions aren't biased at all, apart from appreciating well thought out technology--I have and use a variety of DAPs. 

 

And MM, I wasn't comparing players originally, just noting how marvelous, in my opinion, it is to have the microSD slot in the Clip+, and how it really should be implemented more universally.

 

Have a good New Year, folks; out.   :smileyhappy:

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@Miikerman wrote:

Actually, my opinions aren't biased at all, apart from appreciating well thought out technology--I have and use a variety of DAPs. 

 

And MM, I wasn't comparing players originally, just noting how marvelous, in my opinion, it is to have the microSD slot in the Clip+, and how it really should be implemented more universally.

 

Have a good New Year, folks; out.   :smileyhappy:


 

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.....Now theres a good laugh for today.  Just admit it....you are a Clip fan boi....Even if the plus didn't have a card slot, you would make up some excuse to make appologies in Sandisk's behalf why it really isn't needed for a player of that size.


It's fine that you have opinions, but other people have them too.  Just because you think that a card slot is such a wonderful thing, doesn't mandate that I should think the same way.

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

Thanks for your continued opinions.  Not a "fan boi" here, apart from appreciating good technology and implementation, whatever the source, as I said before.  (You don't seem to follow that; and I'm not asking you to accept my opinions.)  In fact, I now even own an Apple iPod touch ...

 

And for what the Clip originally was, I actually don't think it needs a microSD slot (and I still use my original, slot-less Clip).  Although I'm glad it does, resulting in a handy, good-sounding, cute and small 24GB (with swappable memory) player/FM radio/recorder for under $75, that I tend to reach for over my other players.  And for what the Clip has become, I think the slot is super.

 

(On a side note:  I always find it intriguing when someone who doesn't like a product avidly posts at a forum dedicated to the product--I've never understood that.  Ah, well--I'm outta here.)

 

 

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.....


I love messing with you because you never can leave a thread alone...How many times are you going to be outta here?

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Re: iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

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Just to open up some imaginations about card slot usage ... 

 

Besides serving as adjunct music storage, here are my other actual uses:

 

  1. audio on a card taken directly from a radio recorder (Pogo Radio YourWay LX or CC Witness).
  2. video on a card taken directly from a Sandisk V-mate video recorder.
  3. public library audiobooks' external storage (they don't expire, so why not get them while they're available and put them on cheap removable storage rather than fill up valuable internal storage?)

I do all three of the above on my Sansa Connect.  The Fuze doesn't do #1 well (it doesn't resume files untagged Podcast/Audiobook or unstored in Podcasts/Audiobooks), and doesn't do #2 (I haven't yet found a V-mate video format that the Fuze supports). 

 

I also run an internet radio recording app, Radiotracker 6, for about three hours at a time to collect music of a particular genre.  I prefer to segregate that music onto a card, to easily locate a recording session/genre (for easy deletion of songs I don't like.

 

I do these things on the Fuze, Connect, and other MP3 players with slots, and a PDA, and a PSP Go.  With a slotless Touch, it's no longer "pop in a card and go," but rather going through the intermediaries of a PC and iTunes (including waiting for format conversion).