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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i

I don't know how big the memory chips are dimensionally, but the Fuze certainly would seem to be big enough to hold 32GB onboard, plus a slot. That would be pretty sweet, given that my collection is currently 32.7 GB, and 95.9% of that is lossy. I'm unsure about the Clip. I am inclined to think they'd be more likely to increase the Clips internal memory and not add a slot, so as to not cannibalize Fuze sales.....but I could be entirely wrong too.
iPod Touch 5G 32GB, Touch 4G 32GB, Clip Sport 8GB.
Rockbox-> Clip Zip 4GB, iPod Nano 2G 4GB, iPod 5.5G 80GB
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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i


@Marvin_Martian wrote:
I don't know how big the memory chips are dimensionally

Look at it this way -- if they can fit 16 to 32 gigabytes onto a thumbnail-sized MicroSDHC card, then they can fit 128 GB or more into something with the Clip's form-factor without breaking a sweat.

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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i

But how long would it take the processor to read the contents of 128GB?

 

The database design would have to be pretty clever, at least.

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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i


@PromisedPlanet wrote:

But how long would it take the processor to read the contents of 128GB?

 


Who cares?

 

That wasn't even close to related to the question I answered, which had to do with physical size of flash RAM.  All I pointed out was that there's no realistic limit (note the word "realisitic").

 

As to performance, a few tweaked algorithims would definitely help, but the easiest solution IMO would be to go to a hybrid methodology -- use tree-navigation as first-level browsing, then, within each folder, read the tags.  Keep a separate database table per folder if necessary for performance, and buffer most-recently-used folders to speed up ops.

 

This kind of stuff is childsplay for any halfway competent coder. (former coder speaking)

 

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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i

PS: If you've used a Clip, you know that the infamous Sansa Database Update ONLY occurs when the device is actually updated -- there's NO need to update the database when powering-up, since there's NO possibility of the user having slipped in a MicroSD card while powered-down.  The lack of SD support on the Clip has this as a very positive side-benefit.
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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i

Give me a 32GB Clip, (at 1.5x size for bigger battery) and I would sell my Fuze in a heartbeat, given that I never watch video. Who knows what they would charge for  Clip like I describe though?
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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i


@Marvin_Martian wrote:
Give me a 32GB Clip, (at 1.5x size for bigger battery) and I would sell my Fuze in a heartbeat, given that I never watch video. Who knows what they would charge for  Clip like I describe though?

Precisely -- I prefer the Clip form factor but 8gb of storage is completely inadequate.  They're selling 32gb memory that fits in a USB thumb drive for under $70 -- a 32gb Clip really shouldn't be too terribly expensive. People spending $300-$400 for a Touch or a Sony are paying for features and capabilites, not storage. And as I said up-thread, they could double the size to include an E5-type amp onboard and it would be perfect.

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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i

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Two years down the road, and I am still enjoying my clip in the gym and in the office.


Currently I have a clip+ 4GB + 32GB card and it is already maxed out. Full of 5,500 ogg songs, about one fourth of my cd collection.


Here's my wishlist for the clip++:


- 16GB base memory

- support for higher-capacity micro sdhc upcoming standard (since you are writing the standard anyways...)

- increased battery life!! please! (20 hours minimum)

- same audio quality


RE audio quality - I am still amazed at how well this thing sounds. Recently upgrade my earbuds to klipsch s4's and I am rediscovering my music!


RE the battery life - lots of room for improvement, as the competition is giving their users 60 hours of continuous play in a very small player. I would think most people would readily trade off a few grams or millimiters in exchange for a more decent battery life.


Thanks

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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i

 


@ari wrote:

Two years down the road, and I am still enjoying my clip in the gym and in the office.


Currently I have a clip+ 4GB + 32GB card and it is already maxed out. Full of 5,500 ogg songs, about one fourth of my cd collection.


Here's my wishlist for the clip++:


- 16GB base memory

- support for higher-capacity micro sdhc upcoming standard (since you are writing the standard anyways...)

- increased battery life!! please! (20 hours minimum)

- same audio quality


RE audio quality - I am still amazed at how well this thing sounds. Recently upgrade my earbuds to klipsch s4's and I am rediscovering my music!


RE the battery life - lots of room for improvement, as the competition is giving their users 60 hours of continuous play in a very small player. I would think most people would readily trade off a few grams or millimiters in exchange for a more decent battery life.


Thanks


Rockbox your Clip+....your battery life with ogg files will be much better!Smiley Wink

 

iPod Touch 5G 32GB, Touch 4G 32GB, Clip Sport 8GB.
Rockbox-> Clip Zip 4GB, iPod Nano 2G 4GB, iPod 5.5G 80GB
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Re: Sansa: thanks, now please give me a 16GB Clip (Black) or even better, put an SDHC Card Slot in i

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In 2011 expect the release of 64 GB micro SDXC cards. They might be $200+ though when they are first released. By then there will probably be 128 GB full sized SDXC cards. Perhaps with the release of micro SDXC cards Sandisk might soon release players that take micro SDXC cards? They seem very resistant to releasing a player with a full sized SDXC card slot.