11-18-2015 08:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Western Digital, which makes memory like SanDisk, phased out the players entirely.
However, there is an interesting, inexpensive player on the horizon from another company:
It's the FiiO M3, which will list at $55 (and FiiOs don't get discounted much) with 8GB of internal storage, capacity for 64GB cards and playback for mp3 and lossless files. The hype says it has a separate digital-analogue converter for better sound. Buttons, not a touchscreen, like the Clip.
FiiO is known for hi-fi at low prices, but until now their players have been thick and chunky, and their cheapest player, the X1 at $99, is not loved, though the X3 and X5 are.
The M3 has only been announced, not on sale yet, but for just $55 I'm going to keep an eye out for reviews.
Not quite as tall as a butane cigarette lighter..
11-27-2015 04:30 AM
The FiiO M3 is based on nearly the same SOC as the Clip Sport/Jam (ATJ2129 for M3 vs. ATJ2127 for Sport/Jam) and they share many of the hardware limitations. It will be very interesting to see how they have dealt with the tiny amount of memory and if the end result is any better than of the Sport/Jam.
12-03-2015 10:01 PM
No one has messed with it yet. Honesty is the best policy. It's on Amazon now.
12-04-2015 07:34 AM
Please see my prior post, above yours . . . .
12-04-2015 08:40 AM
I don't see anything wrong/unethical, etc. about discussing a similar product in so much as how it compares to a SanDisk offering. If one were to 'promote' it that would be an entirely different matter and yes, in poor taste but otherwise I think it's ok.
Just my humble opinion of course.
12-05-2015 01:28 PM
I am reminded of a small, family-owned store owner friend of my family, who reported of a couple of customers casually talking in his store, in perfectly heard voices, of better deals being available at competitor stores. I am happy that SanDisk has "opening up a space" for its users to discuss--personally, for me, it doesn't feel appropriate to use that space to direct others to the purchase of competing products or to discuss those products absent a direct tie to SanDisk in some aspect (and even then, again for me, I see it as iffy--third-party sites exist where that can be done). But, again, that's me.
12-06-2015 12:22 AM - edited 12-06-2015 12:26 AM
The purpose of my previous post was to point out that The Clip Sport/Jam and the other DAP shares the same hardware and software platform, are closely related and thus also shares most of the limitations. In my opinion SanDisk has received a lot of unfair criticism for not being able to address the flaws of the Sport. When the initial excitement has passed I think we will see very similar complaints from the other side and I think the flaws will remains just as with the Sport. The hardware is very limited and it's not much you can do with it. It's not easy to find a caplable SOC at this pricepoint nowdays.
I'm aware of that this is a SanDisk only forum and that's against the rules to discuss products from other manufacturers and wish to thank Miikerman for the exemplary way he pointed that out to me. It will be all SanDisk posts from me here on.
12-06-2015 01:49 PM
Thanks, robert_a, and I really wasn't bothered by posts here initially, and found them fine as "state of the art" posts--but then things started to move a bit to "where to buy competing products" and it just made me a bit queasy, as a guest here. Again, just my personal feeling and nothing intended against you (or anyone else).
12-07-2015 12:39 PM
SanDisk isn't a mom-and-pop store, miikerman. And if I hadn't mentioned the FiiO we wouldn't have gotten the interesting information that the units have a similar (and limited) SOC (system on chip).
As further information emerges, it appears the FiiO M3 can't do Replay Gain or gapless, so that SOC is indeed limited. Still Googling around to see if there's a limit on the number of files.
There aren't a lot of standalone players being introduced any more, particularly in the Clip price range. If SanDisk isn't worried about the quality of its products there's no harm in mentioning a competitor. If it is worried about the quality of its products, it can improve them.
Personally I think that Sansa players have been going downhill since the Fuze. Still, I'm glad I picked up a couple of $20 refurbed Clip+ while they were still around. Saw an 8GB Clip+ today on Amazon for about $67.