Reply
Highlighted
SanDisk Fanatic
Posts: 261
Registered: ‎09-05-2007

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0


@PromisedPlanet wrote:

@porio wrote:

@PromisedPlanet wrote:

A lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a folder *is*, let alone organize their music into folders.

 


I was precisely thinking that a lot of people using MP3 players may not even know what a ID3 tag *is*, let alone have their music files properly tagged.


Sure, but you don't have to know what an "ID3 tag" is to browse by an "Artist", or an "Album", or a "Song", or a "Genre".  And the average user is going to have their music files properly tagged when they rip their CDs with WMP, or when they buy a song from Amazon.com or Rhapsody.


There's a person on the Amazon Community for audiobooks who listens to a lot of podcasts, and has tried all sorts of players, including the Zen and Fuze, and likes the Rockbox 3.0 e280 v1 the best, because he can navigate by filename.  Here's a quote about the Fuze: "I wish the player would display the file name and provide a file structure that can be navigated."  Just one person, but experienced, and shows the use is for podcasts, which are notorious for being inconsistently tagged.

Highlighted
SanDisk User
Posts: 65
Registered: ‎09-22-2008

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0

I think adding folder browsing to firmware is a piece of cake and costs nothing - all cheap players has it. No need to remove ID3 tags option, just add one more browsing option. So, if all the other MP3 players (or most of them) have this option I would like to ask if there is a particular reason not to put it in Clip firmware. If someone is smart enough to turn on the Clip and play the song, to connect it to the computer and load the music, to browse by artist, album or title or whatewer, or smart enough to upgrade firmware by Sandisk instructions there is no reason not to add the folder option. If someone does not know what a folder is... I guess this is not the right reason not to have folders on Clip.
Highlighted
SanDisk Guru
Posts: 16,324
Registered: ‎04-17-2008

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0


@giltic wrote:
I think adding folder browsing to firmware is a piece of cake and costs nothing - all cheap players has it.

Obviously it isn't, or SanDisk would have done it already. Or are you trying to agree with my previous thought, that ALL 'cheap' players have it, therefore they don't want their players to be perceived as cheap, so they elected to copy the infamous I-pod and go with tag-based browsing? Do ALL high-end and/or better quality players have folder browsing? No. Why? It's up to the manufacturer which way they want to go, along with thousands of other decisons they must make during the design and planning stages of a new product. And unfortunately, they didn't ask for your opinion when they made this decision.

 

All of SanDisk's players are tag-based; none have folder browsing. There has to be a reason for that. SanDisk might feel that the 'future' is in tag-based browsing; that folder-browsing is 'old-'school'. It may be a RAM limitation in the firmware. Maybe they've done thiier market-research and have it on good authority that the majority of potential users and/or owners actually prefer sorting by Artists, Albums, Genres, etc.?

 

Whatever the reason; that's just the way it is. You buy a product and you enjoy it, or you learn to enjoy it, or you learn to live with it, or you get another one that makes you happier. No one is forcing you to own a Sansa. If you want folder-browsing, you yourself have said that plenty of players have it. Why don't you just get one of those? Because for all it's faults (and there are **bleep** few of them) it's still the best sounding, best-built, and best value for the money! Right? If it's not (in your opinion), then good luck on your next one. I hope you'll be happy!

 

 

Highlighted
SanDisk User
Posts: 65
Registered: ‎09-22-2008

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0

Tapeworm; there is no reason to be upset or angry.

Buyers opinion is important. Market is war - good products are sold and the bad are not. If someone is satisfied with one of the Sandisk players there is no reason to go for other brand. He will stay with Sandisk in the future. It's in Sandisk interest to please the buyer, that's why they want the feedback on their products (I hope so). If they sell, they make money. No need to thank Sandisk for such a great product - they sell and you buy -as simple as that. If they don't sell, they're gone. This is cruel fact.

It's also in Sandisk interest to expand the market - to get as many buyers they can. If one pearson decide not to buy Clip because of the lack of folder browsing - who cares. But if 1/3 of the buyers decide to go for Philips GoGear SA2820 (similar price) which has tags and folders? This could be the problem. That's why buyers opinion counts.

 

You wrote:

''If you want folder-browsing, you yourself have said that plenty of players have it. Why don't you just get one of those?''

 

I hope Sandisk woud disagree on that statement.

 

I am just trying to say that it would be nice to have folder browsing. It's just my humble opinion. I won't bother this forum on that matter in the future.

Highlighted
Newbie
Posts: 15
Registered: ‎04-16-2008

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0

Oh my God Thank You sansateam for making this the best MP3 player on the market! Flac finally! no more transcoding into lossy formats! My in ear monitors can finally shine! Thank youu, as promised I am going to buy a couple of these as gifts for xmas!
Highlighted
Newbie
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎10-21-2008

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0

Ok, I have updated all three of my Sansa clips to the new firmware, and promptly hosed them all.  NO songs will show on the players at all.  The files are in there; I can access them from Windows, and play them in Windows, through the player, but NO file shows up in the Sansa display window.  This has happened on all three players.  I have formatted and started over, to no avail.  Help!!!  I now have three completely useless Sansa Clip 2 gb players.

 

Sincerely,

 

Gary

 

 

 

Highlighted
SanDisk User
Posts: 22
Registered: ‎05-23-2008

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0

How many times someone have made this question? I think is time for a fixed post, titled "No, your files are not gone, just switch USB mode, please" or "Please, make a search before you post a question" or "If you too important to read instructions, at least browse your menus to see what are for, pleeeeease". Or open a "Too FAQ"...
Highlighted
SanDisk Guru
Posts: 8,152
Registered: ‎12-11-2007

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0


@gboisseau wrote:

Ok, I have updated all three of my Sansa clips to the new firmware, and promptly hosed them all.  NO songs will show on the players at all.  The files are in there; I can access them from Windows, and play them in Windows, through the player, but NO file shows up in the Sansa display window.  This has happened on all three players.  I have formatted and started over, to no avail.  Help!!!  I now have three completely useless Sansa Clip 2 gb players.

 

Sincerely,

 

Gary

 


What is the format of the songs?  And do you have their ID3 tags filled in?

Highlighted
Newbie
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎06-07-2008

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0

[ Edited ]

I use Sansa Clip 2GB EU four months, and found this bugs:

1. No support fo russian letters in M3U playlists. Playlist with russian song names shows as <Empty>.

2. Some playlists sometimes shows as <Empty>, after format this playlists shows normally.

3. Sometimes playlist stops at any song, and "<<" & ">>" buttons don't work.

4. Plastic clip cracks on 2 month of using my Sansa.Smiley Sad

Message Edited by De_Cadanz on 10-23-2008 03:20 PM
Players: Panasonic RQ-SW20 -> BBK X5 -> Sandisk Sansa Clip
Headhones: Self-assembled from different broken headphones.
Highlighted
Newbie
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎09-17-2008

Re: Sansa Clip Firmware For Hardware Revision 1.0

When I attempt update using the sansa updater, it downloads the update just fine and begins

the firmware update, then stalls at 10%.  Any help is appreciated. 
I have tried the manual download and update

but the clip will not accept any drops to it other than non root folders.

 

Thanks