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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?


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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

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I guess everyone knows that even a cheapest junk mp3 player is able to play mp3s with correct pitch and that has nothing to do with the price. It seems to me that some terrible conceptual engineering mistake was made with clip series of players right from the start, when such a trivial problem persists and can't be easily solved by software. In other words a hardware bug which can be fixed only by complete redesign - and that is expensive. I believe that's what they meant with the official statement about this issue. Of course they are never going to admit something embarrassing like that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Message Edited by m9zf3n5w on 10-12-2009 07:10 PM
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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

No, that's not the problem.  The Clip has a very limited power supply, due to physical constraints.  Despite this, we have a long operational life on a full charge.  This is possible by carefully managing the device's power consumption. 

 

Decoding at various clock speeds is possible by modifying the PLL parameters and clock dividers.  This was done previously, as discussed.  Please take into consideration that the Clip and Fuze each have several different variants, the revision 1 and 2 families.  Each of these has a different configuration internally.

 

The Fuze has different display and memory requirements (TFT display and µSDHC socket), plus video.  The Clip has two revisions, plus the new Clip+ has integrated µSDHC capability.  The original Clips have the illuminated control buttons.

 

In short, it's not just a matter of tinkering with the PLL algorithm, there are issues unique to each revision and device.  Note that the Clip+ is closer in measured speed.  Slotmonsta is right, there are many issues behind the scenes that affect the final firmware releases.  A far greater number of users would be upset if the battery life dropped considerably, I would bet.  A happy balance between processor demands and battery life is the "holy grail".

 

Time permitting, future firmware revisions will get us closer to this goal.  And there are cool things "behind the scenes" too, that require time and effort.

 

µsansa

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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

Now that's a teaser:  "cool things 'behind the scenes' ..."

 

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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

Thought you'd like that.  The Lil' Monsta never sleeps...

 

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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

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  Are you trying to say that all other mp3 players on the market would have a longer battery life if they've chosen to play MP3s at wrong pitch ? Smiley Happy Or it is about wrong choice of components used (no native support for 44,1KHz), which is closer to my assumption.
Message Edited by m9zf3n5w on 10-13-2009 05:38 AM
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Re: Pitch bug on Clip+?

Actually, you should market it as an audiophile feature. Wow-and-flutter is inherent to analog audio reproduction Smiley Happy