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Re: Clip Zip

LOL. No shares here--my shares only go down.
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The Clip Zip comes packaged with the same earbuds as the Clip+, the round little guys with foam covers.  My wife loves 'em, but I prefer in-ear types personally.

 

The FM radio is very good on the new machine, using the RDS version of the FM chip.  The display generates less interference than the Clip+ OLED display, an improvement.

 

It's really nice to see station and song information when listening to music.  The radio controls are identical to the Clip+.

 

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@neutron_bob wrote:

The Clip Zip comes packaged with the same earbuds as the Clip+, the round little guys with foam covers.  My wife loves 'em, but I prefer in-ear types personally.

 

Your wife obviously is not the reviewer at PCMag, who found the earbuds 1 of the 2 biggest cons of the Clip Zip.   Smiley Wink
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Why does JK98 care, I mean.

 

Is he going to buy 7 of them? One in each colour, and then compare them definitively to everything else forever and ever?

 

Guy's an Robot Mad

 

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@Ingenue wrote:

Why does JK98 care, I mean.

 

Is he going to buy 7 of them? One in each colour, and then compare them definitively to everything else forever and ever?

 

Guy's an [deleted].


Not appropriate for this site, Ingenue . . . .  Not that JK98 needs any explaining, but he's a technology/audio player/SanDisk player fan, interested in SanDisk's players.  And believe it or not, but many people in fact do have multiple Clips, in different colors.   Smiley Wink

 

And now, back to our regularly-scheduled programming.

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@neutron_bob wrote:

The Clip Zip comes packaged with the same earbuds as the Clip+, the round little guys with foam covers.  My wife loves 'em, but I prefer in-ear types personally.

 

The FM radio is very good on the new machine, using the RDS version of the FM chip.  The display generates less interference than the Clip+ OLED display, an improvement.

 

It's really nice to see station and song information when listening to music.  The radio controls are identical to the Clip+.

 

Bob  Smiley Very Happy


I use the packaged buds for bed I dont like the IEMs pushing against my ear and a pillow. 

 

As for RDS there are some "Quirks" with the technology. Its all based on a code of some type and if the code generated by a specific station starts a certain way then the call letters of the station are wrong. (I dont fully understand this but one of the engineers here at the radio station where I work tried to explain it)

 Short example In Toledo 104.7 is WIOT but on any RDS system it comes up KEHB. Just a bit of warning. 


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@Conversionbox wrote:

 

As for RDS there are some "Quirks" with the technology. Its all based on a code of some type and if the code generated by a specific station starts a certain way then the call letters of the station are wrong. (I dont fully understand this but one of the engineers here at the radio station where I work tried to explain it)

 Short example In Toledo 104.7 is WIOT but on any RDS system it comes up KEHB. Just a bit of warning. 



I've noticed some Song Titles are nowhere near what they're supposed to be either, but that I'm sure is up to the individual station inputting the correct data. Sort of like ID3 tags.

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@Conversionbox wrote:

 

As for RDS there are some "Quirks" with the technology. 

 Short example In Toledo 104.7 is WIOT but on any RDS system it comes up KEHB. Just a bit of warning. 



I've noticed some Song Titles are nowhere near what they're supposed to be either, but that I'm sure is up to the individual station inputting the correct data. Sort of like ID3 tags.


It is part that and part of the way the audio is packaged for local markets (I believe)


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"Why does JK98 care, I mean."

 

 i have many  pairs of lower quality earphones and headphones that came with audio players I bought over the years.. When they are very bad, I sometimes just throw them in the trash. When they aren't that bad, I save them, but rarely if ever use them. I would rather either pay less for the item and not get the earphones(even if it is just $1 or $2  less) or else get a case(a low cost one like a skin) included with the player.

 

 

 

 

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Hehe!  The problem goes a little deeper than that on my end...

 

As opposed to the debacle we endured with terrestrial TV broadcasting in the United States, where the entire VHF / UHF bands were dropped from analog (NTSC) broadcast, requiring a digital adaptor box (receiver), commercial radio broadcasting chose a better tack, allowing analog and digital signals to peacefully coexist.

 

For listeners that have purchased the new digital radios, this is marketed as HD Radio.  With a car stereo, the analog signal is selected first; if a digital carrier is present, the wee HD logo appears, and the radio switches to the clean digital signal.

 

So what does this have to do with RDS?  Read on...

 

RDS allows a dual output, a solo station identifier, and a longer "ticker" or scrolling text.  Local broadcasters have the task of inserting the requisite data during broadcast.  If the console, and music library are properly configured, the ID3 type tag information can be sent to the transmitter automatically.  If the broadcaster is in the mood for running a promotional message, this can be substituted or inserted between song information blocks.  Heck, some savvy broadcasters even intersperse blerbs that relate to the currently airing advertising, which should make sponsors ever so happy.

 

The problem is that often, the guys in the booth forget that the ticker hasn't been reset when song play resumes.  This is one of the quirky things we will see.

 

Back to the latest and greatest, HD radio.  Remember that we're dealing with a dual analog / digital signal?  I've had folks complain that their radios will play a few seconds of music, then the HD icon lights, and then complete silence.  Interesting.  I went to have a closer look this morning, and sure enough, the RDS info clears, and refreshes as the unit "goes digital".  Silence.

 

Then the new data popped up on the display:

 

www.broadcast.harris.com  stared back at me.  I just about fell over laughing.  Harris, to those who might not know, makes the latest digital transmitters, big guys, very sophisticated, and far more efficient then the RCA transmitters we've used for decades, since the airwaves first crackled to life with KDKA radio and the first AM broadcasts.

 

The brand-new transmitter has not been programmed yet, the URL of the manufacturer is still loaded in the machine!  I will have to call the local FM station and reach the engineer, as they're broadcasting a clean digital carrier with no audio on it.  Somebody needs to push the volume sliders up, or make a pair of connections at the patch bay.  Awesome.

 

Bob  Smiley Very Happy