@jk98 wrote:
Did you read the review of the Clip+ on Amythingbutipod.com? I am not the only one who feels that the Clip+ sounds different than the Clip.
I didn’t say you’re the only one whos wrong about this. Just that you should know better since you’ve had it quite patiently explained to you how these things work in the past. You have no excuse for being so clueless.
JK98 wrote:
As for the Clip+ and Fuze not properly powering headphones over 32 ohms, that is what I observed using the headphones I own. The Fuze and clip+ don’t work that well with the Sony V6 Sennheiser HD545, Koss A200 and Portapro.
If you’ve got a real difference, post the RMAA results. Because the tests I linked show no difference! If you’ve got one at 32 ohms it should be very easy to show.
Look I’ll even go again. Heres another set of tests:
http://rmaa.elektrokrishna.com/Comparisons/Comparison%20-%20Sansa%20Clip%20-%2012%20-%2048%20Ohm.htm
Note that the low impedance headphones all work worse then high impedance. If you’ve got so many pairs of headphones where this isn’t the case, please test them and share with the community.
Of course you won’t do this because you realize you’re wrong already and are just trying to save face.
JK98 wrote:
I have heard much better sound using those headphones connected to other more powerful sounces. On the Fuze and Clip+ I need to have the volume set at maximum or close to it, and sometimes there isn’t enough volume. While higher impedance headphones might be okay with the Fuze and Clip+ using a supplemental headphone amp, most people don’t want to have to use one.
You’ve confusing impedance with sensitivity. With lower sensitivity headphones, you might need an amp. With lower sensitivity headphones you might need to turn the volume up more. Going from 16 ohm to 32 ohm drops the volume 3dB. Thats nothing! The threshold of detectability is usually around 1 dB for most people. But that doesn’t mean lower impedance works better. It doesn’t as I’ve shown above. It just means that if you get headphones that need an amp, you might need to get an amp. But you can still easily drive higher impedance headphones provided you pick ones with suitable sensitivity such that an amp isn’t needed. And in fact doing so will give you slightly better performance then going with very low impedance headphones.
But really, this brings us back to my original point: you don’t even know what impedance is, so why are you giving advice about it?
JK98 wrote:
Perhaps you will tell me that it was just my imagination that I often didn’t get enough volume with these headphones?
Honestly, given the other things you’ve said, I wouldn’t be surprised if its because you haven’t found the volume knob.
