01-22-2010 10:02 PM
Sorry if you already read this message on Faze board, I decided to post it here too because there was no "general Sansa players"board, and I need to reach the users of each player to understand the differnce.
I have finally decided to buy a SanDisk MP3 or MP4 (which anyway I will use just for music).
I look for something small, with long battery life, and the best possible audio quality and features (like customizeable equalizer to fit my earphones needs, and several random features). And of course, price.
And, also, comfort (for example, sided earphone plug on Clip+ is not a good solution to put it in the pocket, neither is the clip), easy to use, if buttons are solid and silent, or if they do a terrible CLICK, etc...
I understand that each one of these is the best in one field? Fuze and Clip+ are the smallest ones, E270 is the one with more battery time (especiallybecause I can have an extra battery - which I do not understand if it comes with the player or if the player just comes with one).
I also need to use a MicroSDHC Kingston, 8GB, with it.
Can anybody tell me aboutr his experience with one or more of these players please?
SO I can understand well feaures and differences directly from the field, by the real users...THANKS!
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01-23-2010 07:36 AM
Sure, I have all of them, and I rotate between each. The e200 is my personal favorite, mainly for its solid feel, large screen (for a small device), and its docking capability. I have a version 2 e280, meaning that the Sansa has a nice AMS processor in there, and the sound is on par with the Fuze and Clip.
I would recommend the Fuze as the current overall winner, as it is small, has wonderful control feel with its combination scroll and button wheel (I like the term "wobble wheel" ). The Fuze has good battery life as well.
The e200 series is the machine of choice if you are a die-hard Sansa Nut as I am. It is solid like a B-52, can double as a hockey puck, and has a metal shell. The downsides? The version 1 devices, the most common (an e270 is a 6GB device, only available as a version 1) ones, use a PortalPlayer (NVIDIA) processor, and they don't have µSDHC capability without installing Rockbox. The version 2 devices, relatively scarce these days, have the same AustriaMicrosystems processor as the Fuze and Clip.
The Clip+ is super cool, has nice control feel, µSDHC capability, and is the size of a domino, essentially. It goes anywhere you are, without having to worry about a suitable pocket. I've sat on the wee beastie, run and cycle with it (though I would not recommend the last of the triathlon, swimming, as water is a bad thing). Having the headphone connection on the side is eclipsed by the Clip+'s wonderful portability. The only downside I see to the Clip+ is that its small size means a smaller battery.
01-23-2010 10:55 AM
I keep on coming back to the Clip for easy, portable use.
Do note: the equalizer on the Clip+ is marginal, at best; personally, I think that it hurts the sound, rather than helps it. As to the side headphone jack, some headphones use an L-shaped connector plug, and that works great with the jack on the Clip+; you also can purchase an L-shaped adapter or adapter cord (such as at Radio Shack, which sells an adapter cord with built-in volume adjuster wheel--very handy for portable use), if that bothers you.
01-23-2010 03:14 PM
Genious! Great help both of you!
I myself am attracted by Fuze for the battery life and by Clip+ for smallness (may I say smallness?).
Correct me if I am wrong, neither Clip+ or Fuze have a replaceable battery, isn't it?
Few questions more: the fact that the E270 has got other processor, how does influence its sound quality? You said that the sound of version 2 is on par with Clip and Fuze, so I imagine that you mean that Fuze and Clip sound equally well and now E200V2 too, while E200V1 does not? Not even with Rockbox (which I am not familiar with, I have just read few lines about the fact that it is a cool open firmware which change and improove many functions. Sounds cool. ANy negative sides?).
Other question: if you talk so well of Fuze controls, it means that Clip ones are not so smoth and pleasant and comfortable or what?
Practical question: to keep it in jeans pocket (frontal one, which make all difficult when you sit with the player in it) , which player is mor comfortable? I had the impression from dimensions that e270 is a bit big (even if not as much as Connect, which I have inmediatly rejected).
01-23-2010 03:15 PM
Sorry, a question more: should I worry about my Kingston 8gb microsdhc? In other forum a guy told me that there are known incompatibilty issues (casual ones? Or brands-fight ones?) with Sansa players, but he seemd to talk mostly of connect, and of video reproduction...
I need music. And no Connect.
01-23-2010 07:53 PM
Neither the Clip nor Fuze has a user-replaceable battery.
As the Clip is the smallest, it potentially would fit in your pocket the easiest. I would be afraid that the Fuze would break in a pocket.
The Clip's controls are just fine and easy to use (note: it does not have a scroll wheel, if you like and want that). The only potential issue you would have would be less screen display space for lists of music.
And I gather from comments here that while Kingston microSD cards have caused issues with video, there has not been a problem with audio.
01-24-2010 07:34 AM
Thanks! Very useful info about Fuze fragility. I suppose that you have used it personally or at least seen it personaly?
I was about to choose that one, so, now I want to be sure...
SO, FUze and E270 has got the scroll wheel? Yes, I like that, especially if the other buttns click too much. I hate the click...
It is a pity that here I do not find E200 V2. I have been told that E270 sounds less well than Fuze and CLip, even with Rockbox, and this made me loose interest on it...
Pity, because it is a bit cheaper, and it has got more battery time (but it also is bigger).
01-24-2010 08:57 AM
Yes, the Fuze has the scroll wheel. No, it isn't particularly fragile. But it has a metal body that can get dented and it has a normal, larger screen, and it is bigger than the Clip+--thus, it could get damaged more easily than the Clip+, especially in a pocket where you will be bending, potentially with other objects, etc. Good luck!
01-24-2010 10:50 AM
I have both the Clip+ and Fuze. I like them both, but use them differently. It is much easier to find individual songs on the Fuze than on the Clip+ due to the scroll wheel and larger display(more items are shown at a time in lists) on the Fuze. On the Clip+, I let albums play through. On the Fuze, I often search for individual songs.
The proprietary connector on the Fuze is very annoying though. I have supplemental battery packs I can use with my players, and they come with very small USB cables with a mini USB connector. If I want to use them with the Fuze though, I need to carry the huge cable that came with the Fuze. Battery life on the Fuze is around 20 hours, while it is only around 12 hours with the Clip+.
When I am home I almost always use the Fuze, however I don't use the Fuze while I am walking around.
01-24-2010 11:29 AM
Just a sidebar:
Remember Andy Rooney?
Ever wonder how come the almost identical docking port connection of the iPod is considered "the connector", but the SanDisk plug is bemoaned as proprietary? That special termination is designed to allow enhanced functions, like a remote control when docked. Just because one version is as common as weeds doesn't make the other one the black sheep.
A short cable is the answer, perhaps noted as a great product suggestion. If you want to see a cumbersome version, look at the Apple "wye" type cable with FrieWire and USB on the same cable.