12-11-2008 08:20 PM
The output from the Clip is essentially "correct" with the volume turned up. Be sure to select "high" in the Settings > Volume preferences. Experimenting with several different radios, I've found that the higher volume setting works well, as the car sterro doesn't have to be turned up too high.
This will avoid surprises if you switch to another input source in the car.
Be sure, in any case where you connect your Sansa to an outboard device, to turn the volume down before plugging in your headphones again. You don't want to damage your headphones, your ears, or toss that tub of popcorn in your lap when resuming playback.
I've found that the car adaptor for the Motorola RAZR phone, and others with the USB mini-B connector, are great for powering the Clip while in the car.
12-12-2008 10:37 PM
RE: the model numbers -- I found this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f15/beware-version-1-sansa-clips-showing-up-version-2-packaging-380971/ . One poster says that "the v1 skips with large lossless files such as WAV" and that there may be background noises.
I am wondering what I should do -- I just picked up my 4GB Clip from Sears, and I am sure it's a v1, tho I haven't opened it yet. And when I brought it home, my kid got interested in it, so I went online to Sears, and they no longer had the 4GB model at the price I got it for ($37 with tax), but they did have the 2GB Clip for $29, so I bought that. I figured I would grab it, and return it unopened if I hear too many bad things about it.
So -- did I get good deals or should I return these items? If it matters, we aren't audiophiles, and I will probably use mine more for voice than music. Thanks!
12-12-2008 10:44 PM
Thanks for the helpful tips, Bob.
One thing I am concerned about is that I've read that the Clip is loud, and that you can't turn it down much. Some people like that, but I am worried about hearing damage. For myself, it may not be a big problem, because I think I will mainly use it in the car, thru speakers. But I am concernedc about giving it to my kid to use with headphones. Would you say the volume is pretty loud? We don't play our music loud, so we still have our hearing, and I'd like to keep it that way!
12-13-2008 06:25 AM
sunnyday...a couple thoughts...
First, good sleuthing on the version number issue. I'd be concerned about the two new black 4GBs in my possession, except that I don't play WAVs or lossless formats, so I suspect I shouldn't have skipping problems.
Second, regarding volume level. I admit I chuckled when I read your question...of course the first thing that occured to me is "well, turn it down!!!". But then what your kids do is not always under your control. I'm also depressed and astonished that the words "turn that music down!!!" actually come out of my mouth from time to time.
In all seriousness, I don't have a solomonesque solution, but in the meantime: remember that in the "Settings" menu there is an option to "boost" the volume. So at a minimum you can sneak in there and make sure it's set to "low", not "hi". At least that will limit the maximum. You have a few other options but they are a bit fascist: (1) run all your kid's MP3s through MP3Gain, and lower the peak volume that way, or maybe buy really cheap earbuds, which (in my experience) tend to have weak volume levels.
12-13-2008 07:58 AM
Thanks, Matt. I thought I had read somewhere that the Clip only has 2 volume settings, rather than a continuous adjustment, and that the lowest setting was not so low (one user said it was too loud for him to use to listen in a quiet bedroom). That's why I've been worried about it, beyond the natural inclination of teenagers to play music too loud.
12-13-2008 05:20 PM
The high volume issue you mention was with the earliest firmware version of the Clip and e200 series version 2 devices, with the new processor.
SanDisk has since updated the lower end of the volume scale by adding additional steps on the lower end of the scale, for both machines.
The "volume" option in Settings is a limiter for the upper end of the volume scale, limiting the maximum to about 85% of full capability. It simply disables the high end of the volume scale. I like this "low" setting for my daughters' Clips, so they don't crank it up too loud.
12-14-2008 10:34 AM
Thanks, Bob -- that's very good news indeed!
I have started trying to use my 4GB Clip -- have run into problems, but I think I will start a new thread.