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SanDisk Guru
Posts: 4,898
Registered: ‎11-17-2008

Re: Only plays card or internal memory songs, not both


@JaZZ wrote:

It has always looked to me as if SanDisk was a manucfaturer with a heart for an audiophile clientele, beside the legitimate goal of making money with its products. I took this from the ear-catching sound quality of the Sansa players, now particularly the Clip Zip – in comparison to Apple, iRiver, Cowon, Archos... players –, and the focus on audio instead of the more popular multimedia functionality, which is rare these days.

Now maybe something is about to change in the management or the company philosophy – given the lovelessness with which the «Sport» has been thrown into the market.


It is a sad state of affairs.Smiley Sad I don't use my Rockboxed Clip Zip all the time, but I don't want to be without it......and the Sport is not an acceptable replacement for it.

iPod Touch 5G 32GB, Touch 4G 32GB, Clip Sport 8GB.
Rockbox-> Clip Zip 4GB, iPod Nano 2G 4GB, iPod 5.5G 80GB
2012 Nexus 7 32GB, Asus MeMoPad 8 16+64GB, LG Optimus G Pro, Nokia Lumia 900, Nokia Lumia 520

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 8,152
Registered: ‎12-11-2007

Re: Only plays card or internal memory songs, not both


@saratoga wrote:

@Tapeworm wrote:

@Miikerman wrote:

@JaZZ wrote:

I think the split database is there for good, although I'd like to be wrong.


Do you think that it's a limitation which even Rockbox can't handle?


There currently is no Rockbox port for the Sport and, given a change in the Sport's internals, there may never be.  Simply put, don't count on it.


 

And as I understand it (although I could be wrong), it's the processor used in the new Sport that cannot bridge the 2 memory locations. If that is true, then it is unlikely that Rockbox (if it is ever ported to this model) would be able to 'fix' it either.


Its not a hardware limitation, they just have an ackward user interface. 

My understanding is that it is a hardware limitation as well.  Regardless, it is a limitation.

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 1,265
Registered: ‎04-24-2009

Re: Only plays card or internal memory songs, not both

I don't think its physically possible for hardware to limit how two lists of things are shown on a screen. If you can show list a and you can show list b, you'd be able to show elements from both a and b.  

 

Probably what was meant is that they do not intend to change the GUI, not that it cannot be done.

Newbie
Posts: 13
Registered: ‎02-23-2008

Re: Only plays card or internal memory songs, not both

Can always ask Creative. They're quite good in screwing up card integration, or in their case, the complete lack of it.

 

This player makes no sense. Get the Clip zip and you lose the elapsed time bar. Instead of bring it back in a firmware update they put it back in the Clip Sport. But now you sacrifice card integration. They really only improve one thing, battery life. Otherwise, from reading reviews and complaints, it seems like everything else is a step backward. And if you're going to make the thing bigger, add bluetooth for Christmas sake. Did you really need better battery life on a product that already had much better than average battery life? I just don't get it. This company seems to be very out of touch with its user base. And if sales continue to be lackluster, you'll be keeping all your bugs and issues because firmware fixes won't be happening. They'll just move on to generation 5 just like they've done before. 

Newbie
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎12-01-2008

Re: Only plays card or internal memory songs, not both

Wow, what an eyeful.  Posts on other topics have suggested I might be able to access more than 32GB on the card, if I buy one of those new 64GB sdxc cards and format it using FAT-32.  Then I can move everything off the internal memory, and play it all.  Of course, Sandisk makes the cards, so promotional comments may be misleading.

 

If it works, I'll just have the file limit (~6,000 songs internal+card on my old clipzip, but probably fewer on just the memory card) to stay below, and I'm guessing that's not much more than 32GB anyway.

 

If not, I'm not inclined to "upgrade" to one of these older Clip players.  The ClipZip battery didn't even outlast the warranty, which is probably why Best Buy no longer carries it.  I'll just return ClipSport for store credit, buy music with it, and give up on the idea that there are reliable memory-card-capable music players out there.

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 8,152
Registered: ‎12-11-2007

Re: Only plays card or internal memory songs, not both

My Clip+ has held up well over time.