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Newbie
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎08-26-2016

Re: Need help with BOP version

Clearly my error, sorry WipeOut thanks for the assist.

 

Milkerman, why would I give them $25.00 now? I have the files. They are worthless. Can only play on that player.

No will meet with my attorney and consider holding all parties responsible for consumer fraud.

 

They advertise the files as "192 bit rate MP3 files" Which just about any man on the street would expect he could play on any MP3 player. Certainly an Apple iPod. But they lied, hat is NOT what they are delivering. They will either refund or produce what they said I was purchasing.

Newbie
Posts: 19
Registered: ‎08-28-2016

Re: Need help with BOP version

Kurt,

 

No problem bro, can't even see where anything would have offended me but just glad to help the community out.

 

Yes the true downside is the 128 bitrate but for some people who just want the music they paid for it will probably suffice just for that purpose.

 

The renaming of the files using the renamer isn't really required if using the newest android os but if you were going to stream them from a windows pc that utility mentioned above would well suit the purpose, may edit the original post with that.

 

You know what bothered me more than the $25 was the fine print states it is actually $35

 

9. Total Fee: Based on selections made, specifically the insurance. a. $25.00 (Service Fee + $10.00 shipping and handling)  Include Money Order issued by USPS, Western Union or MoneyGram for the total payable to ATG.

 

Plus they use the most expensive options for the money orders so add another $4-$5 on that for an even $40.

 

Greedy people I do say.

 

Hope someone finds this trick useful Smiley Wink.  Should have an update on the firmware issue in the next week or so. 

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 8,152
Registered: ‎12-11-2007

Re: Need help with BOP version


@kurt045 wrote:

Clearly my error, sorry WipeOut thanks for the assist.

 

Milkerman, why would I give them $25.00 now? I have the files. They are worthless. Can only play on that player.

No will meet with my attorney and consider holding all parties responsible for consumer fraud.

 

They advertise the files as "192 bit rate MP3 files" Which just about any man on the street would expect he could play on any MP3 player. Certainly an Apple iPod. But they lied, hat is NOT what they are delivering. They will either refund or produce what they said I was purchasing.


Ah, I thought that if you paid the fee, the files would be unlocked and you freely could use them wherever--on the SanDisk, on another player, etc., and as a "normal type" of file such as in mp3 format.  Not the case? 

 

(I know that you had discussed otherwise, but I thought that that was when you used the iCare recovery software; in which case I thought, it might just be best to pay the sum and get the music files free and clear.) 

 

If the files still are "crippled" (not transferable to another device, and not in a mainstream format) after paying the fee, yep, I can see why you would be ticked off.   

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 4,548
Registered: ‎07-18-2007

Re: Need help with BOP version


@Miikerman wrote:

 

Ah, I thought that if you paid the fee, the files would be unlocked and you freely could use them wherever--on the SanDisk, on another player, etc., and as a "normal type" of file such as in mp3 format.  Not the case? 

 

 

It is my understanding this is the way it works. IIRC the files are protected and once the product is sent to ATG to be unlocked you will get unprotected MP3s.

 

This is ATG though. SanDisk only sells the actual product to ATG. Any issues with the content or how it is unlocked I would recommend contacting ATG for support. 

Newbie
Posts: 19
Registered: ‎08-28-2016

Re: Need help with BOP version

Hey guys,

 

The files have zero protection on them.  The protection level that ATG put in the software just hides the devices storage volume from being able to be displayed and therefor from being removed.  Using diskpart, gpart, and every other command based partition tool I was shocked icare was the only one which could see the data through a data dump.  I think this is because the icare software is not a partition software by design but a tool to recover lost pictures and data from a corrupted device.

 

I believe you are the one who had 2700 songs, if so I would read this page.  I can vouch for the fact they will supply you the code for free so you can get all your music in one download.  With 2700 songs it will take a while to dump the data though you already knew that considering how long it would have taken to get those songs using the bop's software.

http://goo.gl/qjcGPi

 

What I still can't understand are why they include a seperate folder with short 30 second clips of some of the songs.  I am guessing when you clicked on the preview button to listen to the music it actually downloaded that clip to your player but this is only speculation.  

 

Who would have thought Keefe would have a data division and they would have actually been good at it.......now just coffee and whole shebangs folks... they do data well.

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Newbie
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎08-26-2016

Re: Need help with BOP version

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OK, I'll say it another way. There should be 2795 track. Recovered  6 gigs of SWF files(Flash video). With 1700 300Kb files.

How do I convert SWF to MP3? Because SWF will not load on any of my Nano's or 64 Gig iPod Touch. Are the missing 1075 files in the SWF files?

 

Icare recovered all data from the player bite for bite.

 

I should be more precise, I don't believe Icare converted the files to SWF durring recovery. And the MP3 files of verious sizes,

example one may sat file876.mps  size 17KB and the next one file877.mp3 will be 90KB. Sizes go up to 290KB.

 

WidedOut, can't stand Keefe coffee, and no Shabangs on our Pound. Smiley Happy

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 8,152
Registered: ‎12-11-2007

Re: Need help with BOP version

This is why I keep on wondering if going the "official" way and biting the bullet and paying the "unlock fee" is just the easier way to go.  But I don't have the knowledge that you folks do, and I understand the reluctance (having acted similarly in the past myself . . .). 

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 8,152
Registered: ‎12-11-2007

Re: Need help with BOP version

Just a thought, Kurt:  without meaning to offend at all, are you sure that something in the iCare software wasn't inadvertently set when you used it, that caused an unintended result?  It's just odd that music files would end up as swf files, and that all of your music files don't seem to have been recovered (at least cleanly). 

 

Perhaps WipedOut will have further suggestions there--I don't have any experience with iCare. 

Newbie
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎08-26-2016

Re: Need help with BOP version

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Well Milkerman, I saw no offer to "save as" and the last I thing I would have chosen is SWF format. Adobe never really seemed to get on board with Shock Wave after they bought Maromedia, Macromedia Director was one the the very few apps they let die.

Adobe looked at SWF as sort of a red headed step child.(no offence intended to red heads).

 

Some of the files were extracted to a "lost file Dir" Now those are proper size, not named. IE: 377gh.mp3   12MB. No the app worked as most do, find the files, show you the files, and extracted the ones you want.

 

The files aren't locked, the unit is. But again as far as I am concerned it would make a lousy paper weight.  I need a app the will convert the pointer and Shock Wave files to MP3. I have a licenced version of Helium Music Manager(the best IMHO)and it handles all audio files and even it has no idea what to do with them.

 

I would not mind(too much)having to rename all 2795 files(Helium can hand that)but they have to be "true" standard MP3 files

Newbie
Posts: 19
Registered: ‎08-28-2016

Re: Need help with BOP version

Kurt,

 

I am at a loss here, the files should all have been MP3's and no where on the drive should SWF have even existed.  Are you positive you hit the lost partition recovery?  Can you try this on a seperate computer?  

 

The files can be played anywhere, I know because I put them on dropbox and stream them to my radio while I am in my car from my Samsung Galaxy.  128K MP3's meh, it could be worse.  I typically get 320k but before someone jumps into the whole flac debate, I just don't care for FLAC until the compression goes up.  It would eat up almost all my bandwith driving to and from work on my monthly plan.  Sure I can store it to the phone but my collection is rather large.

 

When the file dump completed were you left with a huge list of file folders, each one containing 2-4 songs?