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SanDisk User
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Registered: ‎05-09-2008

Any hope for music integration?

I was just wondering if there was a chance for a future firmware update to intergrate the SD memory and onboard memory of songs. Also for the songs to play by album order and not alphabet order, and for there to be a more than 2000 song limit.

 

I have a clip zip and I love it, and I would want to buy a clip sport/jam if these features were added.

SanDisk Guru
Posts: 8,152
Registered: ‎12-11-2007

Re: Any hope for music integration?

I would purchase another Clip Zip or Clip+:  why downgrade?

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Registered: ‎04-17-2008

Re: Any hope for music integration?


@nonipoduser22 wrote:

I was just wondering if there was a chance for a future firmware update to intergrate the SD memory and onboard memory of songs. Also for the songs to play by album order and not alphabet order, and for there to be a more than 2000 song limit.

 


 

Combining the internal and external memories is a hardware limitation so no, that ain't gonna happen.

 

Ironically, when the Sport first came out, it had a 4,000 track limit for the internal and 4,000 limit for the card. When attempting to fix some bugs in the first firmware update though, extra memory space was needed, so the database was cut in half. So no, that's not going to change either.

As far as playing in album order, if you edit the ID3 tags of the files and put the track number at the beginning of the title, it should play in the desired order (Example: 05 - Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds)

SanDisk User
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Re: Any hope for music integration?

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Aw, that disappoints me. I liked that this time they made the 8GB versions in colors other than black and grey. I have over 5000 songs and I like to carry them all with me. Looks like I won't be jumping to get this one, if I ever do, I guess I'll have to limit my music.

 

What's the point of an 8GB database with the option to add up to 32 GB more if you can only listen to 2000 on both storages? Very disappointing.

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Registered: ‎05-02-2010

Re: Any hope for music integration?

If it really has to be the Sport (which I appreciate for its sound quality) and you can renounce database involvement, there's the Sport's folder mode allowing access to all songs without a file-number limitation.

 

If you like shuffle play, there's no other «clean» solution than putting your whole collection in a playlist, preferrably with all songs on the card, as a directory mix doesn't seem to work reliably (it does with one of my cards, but not with the other...). There may be a song limitation somewhere above 5000, though.

 

In one of my two Sports I have a 64 GB card with all (>6000) songs straight in the «Music» folder to enable shuffle play through folder mode. This solution does work, but makes the player slow.

SanDisk Guru
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Registered: ‎12-11-2007

Re: Any hope for music integration?

Saying it again:  make life easy and get a Clip+ or Clip Zip . . . .

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Registered: ‎09-13-2008

Re: Any hope for music integration?

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"In one of my two Sports I have a 64 GB card with all (>6000) songs straight in the «Music» folder to enable shuffle play through folder mode. This solution does work, but makes the player slow."

 

They are in the music folder without using any subfolders? If so, I'm surprised the player functions that way.

It seems like with the Clip+ and Clip Zip using the original firmware, the player choked if there were more than 255 items(files or folders) directly in a folder.

SanDisk Fanatic
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Registered: ‎05-02-2010

Re: Any hope for music integration?

I wasn't aware of any problem (now I am!) – maybe that's why it works. Smiley Very Happy

SanDisk User
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Re: Any hope for music integration?


@JaZZ wrote:

If it really has to be the Sport (which I appreciate for its sound quality) and you can renounce database involvement, there's the Sport's folder mode allowing access to all songs without a file-number limitation.

 

If you like shuffle play, there's no other «clean» solution than putting your whole collection in a playlist, preferrably with all songs on the card, as a directory mix doesn't seem to work reliably (it does with one of my cards, but not with the other...). There may be a song limitation somewhere above 5000, though.

 

In one of my two Sports I have a 64 GB card with all (>6000) songs straight in the «Music» folder to enable shuffle play through folder mode. This solution does work, but makes the player slow.


Thanks, but that would mean taking out all my music from their album folders. I probably have over 100 albums. That's too much work. I'm just going to stick with my Clip Zip and Sansa Fuze, which both work great and have music integration and hold all my music. If I get another player, it might be a Sansa Clip+ from ebay or something since they're discontinued now


@Miikerman wrote:
Saying it again: make life easy and get a Clip+ or Clip Zip . . .

Ha! Right. I think the Clip+, Clip Zip and Sansa Fuze were the best players Sandisk made. It's too bad they didn't improve on them with the Sport and Jam.

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Registered: ‎09-13-2008

Re: Any hope for music integration?

Sandisk finally realized that in the under $50 category the are competing against the ipod Shuffle, so their player only has to be better than the Shuffle. The Clip+ and Clip Zip(with Rockbox installed) are in many ways better than the ipod Nano.