11-13-2017 07:26 PM
One quick addition to your excellent comments and suggestions:
While using the auto-numbering wizard in mp3tag, make sure to check the box for "Leading zeros for tracknumbers".
This selection starts track numbering at 01, 02 etc. With single digit numbering, the Clip Sport & Jam will play tracks in a messy order (1,11, 2, 21, etc.)
02-11-2018 08:12 AM
Edit to my previous post: The inability of the Jam to bookmark the current track number in an audiobook has become insurpassable. I've sent a request to Sandisk support requesting the feature in a new firmware (bookmarking which track number you're on, in addition to bookmarking the location within that track), but in the meantime, I'm watching eBay for used Clip+s and Zips.
02-11-2018 12:52 PM
Your critical comment is appropriate. What about a quick & dirty work-around ?
Maybe use the Options menu after listening to a book chapter to delete the chapter from the player memory ??
02-19-2018 11:59 AM
Thanks for the idea. It's definitely dirty, but not necessarily quick. I'm afraid I'd delete a track I still needed and would end up needing to reload the book!
1) My audiobooks don't typically let me know when I've switched tracks. Sometimes I'll get an older book that includes the announcement "End of track one" in the audio, but that's the exception.
2) If, at some arbitrary time, like once a day, I look at my current track in the display and decide to delete all prior tracks, there's the added complication that track list only displays the first 30 characters of the title, so it's not convenient (ex. current book displays "The Girl Who Takes an Eye For a" for all 9 tracks). Preplanning & MP3Tag would be needed to edit the book tags so the track number is visible in order to make this "quick".
The first time you lose your track, you can visit each track, if it asks you "Resume?" that's your track. Unfortunately, the 2nd time you try this, all the tracks that weren't your track the first time are now 2 seconds in, and they all offer to "Resume?" Takes quite a bit longer to find the correct track. In a 50+ track book, there are lots of opportunities to lose your place - this is the kind of book that the Jam is particularly ill-suited for. (It was a 52 track, ~60 hour book that changed my mind about the Jam being "adequate" for listening to audiobooks.)
03-21-2018 12:46 PM
This is great information. I just tried it and am hoping this has solved this problem. Not one of the four books I just downloaded had a track tag. You are the man/woman or person
04-03-2018 10:51 PM
*This post is about the Sandisk Clip Jam with firmware v1.13.*
I am disappointed in the audiobook playback on the Clip Jam. I have dyslexia so I read exclusively with audiobooks. I have tried many different audiobook players. So far the best one I have found is an app for android, but I don't like draining the battery on my phone. I decided to try the Clip Jam because the Clip+ and a couple other models were highly recommended by audiobook listeners, however those products are no longer in production.
This post is my wishful thinking on how I would like the audiobook playback on the Clip Jam to function based on my extensive history of listening to audiobooks. Unfortunately it's pretty much a major overhaul of the current firmware so the likelyhood of any of it actualy being added is slim. If anyone knows how to get it in the hands of the firmware developers though please let me know or feel free to pass it along.
SD Card Integration:
Folder structure 1) No folder organization:
The current firmware doesn't allow for the organized folder structure. It will just group all of the individual tracks of multiple books into one big book if you try to organize your folders this way.
The player should be able to support each of these folder structures. The Organized Folder Structure is nice because if you have an author with many books and book series' you can keep the different series' separate. Also if your metadata info is not present, inaccurate, or incomplete you still have the author/series info, and book title. The benefit of Folder Structure 1 is that it allows for easy drag and drop of books onto the device. However if the book doesn't have proper metadata info for the Author/Series you don't have that info.
Playing a book/Resuming playback:
When playing an audiobook, instead of selecting the track, selecting the Book Title (book folder) should start playing the book. For a new (not yet started) book, the tracks should start playing in order. When resuming a book that has already been started, playback should resume in the same location and on the same track that you left off on (no need to remember the track name/number). When resuming from a long break playback should back up approximately 30 seconds to give the listener a recap (this should be configurable in settings).
When playing a book the options button (down button) should have the following menu structure;
04-04-2018 12:47 PM - edited 04-04-2018 12:48 PM
04-04-2018 07:46 PM
Smart Audiobook Player (link here) is the one that I use on my android phone, it is actually one of the reasons I switched from an iPhone to Android. It is the best audiobook player I've ever used and I love it. It has all of the features you ever wanted in an audiobook player and they even threw in a few more that you didn't know you wanted. The free version is full featured for 30 days, after that you just have the basic features. Even though the basic version is good I do recommend purchasing the full version, I think it's $2 and well worth it. The only problem is that it's only for Android (not too big a deal since i'm never going back to an iPhone), but my phone is too large to exercise with, hence the reason I wanted a smaller audiobook mp3 player.
Yeah, It seems like the only people that still use them are audiobook listeners (and there are quite a few of us). Some one should do a kickstarter for an audiobook player or even just to develop the firmware to upgrade an existing player to be optimized for audiobook playback. It probably wouldn't be too hard for someone who knows what they are doing, there is already an opensource mp3 player alternate firmware project out there, but they aren't really developing it anymore for new mp3 players, because of the decline in mp3 player popularity.
Since the prospects don't look good for a decent audiobook mp3 player any time soon , I may just buy the smallest android phone I can find and use it as a dedicated audiobook player.
04-05-2018 06:02 AM
I've done some minor investigation into rockbox (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=51796.0). Apparently, new SanDisk players don't have enough RAM to run a custom firmware.
04-05-2018 08:39 AM
That sucks, so much for an opensource firmware solution.
I just looked up small android phones and found one called Jelly (link here), it's not much wider than the Clip Jam but about 1.5x longer a just about as thick. I just ordered one, I'm going to see if it's worth it as an audiobook player with the Smart Audiobook Player app.