Sansa Fuze+ Firmware 02.36.03

Yay for fixing the lock function, but am I the only one who is really really bothered by navigation?

Sluggish performance with buggy navigation still makes it very hard for me to enjoy my player.  I don’t ever want to be defaulted back to the stupid cover flow screen!  Back should always mean back to the menu I used to get to the currently playing song!!!  No matter what.  End of story.  Whether I have turned the player off or it has gone to the idle screen shut off or whatever.  If the screen goes idle while I am browsing through menus, when I touch the controls again, it should come back up to the same screen I was on before it went idle.

It would also be nice if playback resumed on start up.  Can’t count how many times I’ve set it down, waiting the full minute+ for it to start up and forgotten about it, because it didn’t start to play music.  Then it shuts itself off and I have to restart the whole process.

I said it the last time there was an update: fix the sluggishness, and the other problems become less of an issue.  Please.  I really don’t care about the clock and the date, when the poor navigation and extreme sluggishness make me not want to use the player at all.

Going on six months of trying really hard to like this player.  Now seriously considering selling it for as much as possible and buying a Cowon J3.

sabina wrote:

 

Sluggish performance with buggy navigation still makes it very hard for me to enjoy my player.  I don’t ever want to be defaulted back to the stupid cover flow screen!  Back should always mean back to the menu I used to get to the currently playing song!!!  No matter what.  End of story.  Whether I have turned the player off or it has gone to the idle screen shut off or whatever.  If the screen goes idle while I am browsing through menus, when I touch the controls again, it should come back up to the same screen I was on before it went idle.

 

it does this as long as it is not turned off. the only time back goes back to the main menu level is if 1. you press and hold the back button. or 2. it is turned off. 

they said they are working on sluggish menus when it has a large library. not sure when the fix would be released though. 

I haven’t sat and figured out the exact pattern it follows, but between the sluggish performance they’ve supposedly been working to fix since I got the thing in October and being redirected when I’m trying to browse my library, whether it has idled or been turned off, the UI is a nightmare.  I might as well not have my music in playlists or categorized by genre, because the frustration it takes to get to those menus is just not worth it.

I mean, yeah my player is just about full and I have a microSD card, but why offer a 16gb capacity player with microSD slot if they render the player completely annoying?

I feel that there should be a firmware update that makes it easier to access individual songs. For instance, I have about 350 songs and if I want to listen to a song that begins with the letter “Z”, I have to scroll alllllll the way down through all of my songs before I can get to it. There needs to be a way that we can access individual letters because it is kinda annoying having to do that. I can’t imagine if I had 1000 songs and had to scroll through all of the songs before I am able to get to the one I want to hear. 

A little while after the previous Fuze debuted, wraparound scroll was added.  It would be great on the Fuze+, both in the main menu, and within the navigation nodes.

The Fuze+ would benefit immensely from this feature.  I think I would too, come to think of it.

Bob  :stuck_out_tongue:

Now that they fixed the locking mechanism with a firmware update. I’m sure looping menus will be next. Since its the second most complained about feature on the Fuze+. I’m sure the locking mechanism was the #1 complaint from everyone. And any Touch navigation device should have a quick and reliable locking mechanism. 
Hopefully the looping menus are coming. 

That would be most welcome !

Will they fix the sluggishness of the devie anytime soon. I have just under 3,000 songs on my device and it takes ages to access my music via playlist. Also its very irritating when the player resets back to the top of the music player which exasperates the sluggisness of this device, meaning I have to take a long time to once again access my music via playlist. Please fix thank you.

I doubt that is the second most complained about issue, but it is up there. The sluggishness of this player is the biggest and most annoying issue on this player. If they fix it, it will be a great mp3 player. Most people who have returned their sansa fuze+ are due to the sluggishness with full libraries, overlsensative gui. For now this player is a nightmare come true but hopefully they will fix these issues very soon. I am still at a loss that these bugs were not worked out before actual release? But I guess thats their choice. It will affect the overall bottom line to be honest though.

@leeangelo wrote:

Will they fix the sluggishness of the devie anytime soon.

 


drlucky wrote in this post just 2 days ago:

  

they said they are working on sluggish menus when it has a large library. not sure when the fix would be released though. 


That would be most welcome !

More importantly, it takes long time for the volume buttons to start working after the touchpad was touched while the player was locked. Does not make sense to me. If I have the player in my pocket and it’s locked, and I want to change the volume, it is quite likely that I will inadvertently touch the touchpad while reaching for the player. This disables volume buttons for an annoyingly long time.

 

Well, after a few days of testing, I can say it’s exactly as I thought.  90% of times I want to change volume on the player that sits locked in my pocket, I accidentally touch the touchpad when reaching into the the pocket, and the volume buttons get blocked for 40 seconds or so. Please fix this.

I haven’t seen this behaviour. There are a few seconds until the volume buttons react, but really only a few - and I am certainly not in the mood to defend the Fuze+

OK, I admit I exaggerated. I measured it now. It’s not 40 seconds. It’s 15 seconds. Still, it’s like 14 seconds too long. Actually it’s 15 seconds too long - why does tapping on the touchpad of a locked player block the hard volume buttons for any amount of time? The hardware buttons should not be affected at all by previous taps on the touchpad.

The fun part was tapping the touchpad, then waiting for progressively longer times to see when the volume buttons respond.

The new lock feature is a wonderful addition, with one remaining glitch, all control inputs are inhibited when locked, except for the power button.   When the touchpad is tapped, the hey! I’m locked! message starts a timeout that inhibits the volume buttons.

It’s a bug for sure, remedied soon, I hope. 

The volume buttons, a hard input, should always have interrupt capability (coding hint, nudge nudge wink wink).

Bob  :smileyvery-happy:

@pawelg: What is your backlight time out? Mine is 30 second and once it blacks out it take an additional 10 seconds for the volume buttons to work, (I’ll test them though without the backlight going off though and see if I’m wrong.)

Same here, the display timeout plus a little more time.  To map the volume key interrupt without the lock is the key.

The new lock feature is almost right.

Bob  :smileyvery-happy:

I don’t believe anyone has mentioned one other negative side effect of the new lock feature, which is that the new “lock” picture is much more opaque than what was on the last lock screen (which did not feature a picture of a lock at all), making it difficult to simply look at track information that’s already playing…you often have to unlock the device first, especially if you’re out in the sun.

@alienkid10

I have 45 seconds backlight out time.

NVM backlight time has nothing to do with it. It’s about 15 second from locking to being able to use the volume buttons. Very annoying.