Why isn't there a 16 GB Fuze?

I think another very real limitation is the refresh time after you connect the Fuze to a computer (heh, or crash). The time it takes is proportional to how many files are on the device. I don’t have too much on my device so it doesn’t take that long, and I’m fine with that. That said, can you imagine how it would take to refresh a full 64gb Fuze? Especially if you subscribe to short, daily podcasts and/or only charge with a PC.

A 5-minute refresh every single day would be a dealbreaker for me.

@peach wrote:

I think another very real limitation is the refresh time after you connect the Fuze to a computer (heh, or crash). The time it takes is proportional to how many files are on the device. I don’t have too much on my device so it doesn’t take that long, and I’m fine with that. That said, can you imagine how it would take to refresh a full 64gb Fuze? Especially if you subscribe to short, daily podcasts and/or only charge with a PC.

 

A 5-minute refresh every single day would be a dealbreaker for me.

That’s where multiple players come in handy. Keep a 1 or 2GB Clip around for your podcasts…problem solved!:wink:

@peach wrote:

That said, can you imagine how it would take to refresh a full 64gb Fuze?

I’d like to have that problem.

@peach wrote:

I think another very real limitation is the refresh time after you connect the Fuze to a computer (heh, or crash). The time it takes is proportional to how many files are on the device. I don’t have too much on my device so it doesn’t take that long, and I’m fine with that. That said, can you imagine how it would take to refresh a full 64gb Fuze? Especially if you subscribe to short, daily podcasts and/or only charge with a PC.

 

A 5-minute refresh every single day would be a dealbreaker for me.

5 Minutes wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me.

In 5 minutes at work I can go to the ladies room and return to my Fuze… go check faxes or organize paperwork… take the elevator down to have lunch and then put my fuze to what I wanted… (don’t ask me why the elevator takes so long)… take the elevator down to my car, walk to my car, turn on my car, plug it in and listen to the podcast I want…

At home, pop some popcorn and get settled nicely to listen to an audiobook… play a quick game of pinball on my netbook… shut down my netbook and put it away and unplug then putaway all cords I don’t need anymore… write a quick entry in my journal…

“In 5 minutes at work I can go to the ladies room and return to my Fuze…”

Wow! I thought all the regulars here are male.

@peach wrote:
A 5-minute refresh every single day would be a dealbreaker for me.

Its already close to that with a 16GB Fuze filled to the gills. So, double that for a 32GB, and then double it again for 32GB+32GB MicroSDHC. A 64GB Fuze would be awesome, but a 20-minute refresh would be not awesome.

bdb wrote: 

Its already close to that with a 16GB Fuze filled to the gills. So, double that for a 32GB, and then double it again for 32GB+32GB MicroSDHC. A 64GB Fuze would be awesome, but a 20-minute refresh would be not awesome.

Not if it’s loaded with FLAC files. 64gb is a paradigm shifter for how one views and uses a flash player, especially now that super cheap disk storage has enabled large libraries of lossless music files.

@marvin_martian wrote:

That’s where multiple players come in handy. Keep a 1 or 2GB Clip around for your podcasts…problem solved!:wink:

That is what I do, so that’s probably why I find 5 minutes so intolerable. :wink:

@jk98 wrote:

“In 5 minutes at work I can go to the ladies room and return to my Fuze…”

 

Wow! I thought all the regulars here are male.

 

He never said he wasn’t…

@dennisqwilson wrote:


@jk98 wrote:

“In 5 minutes at work I can go to the ladies room and return to my Fuze…”

 

Wow! I thought all the regulars here are male.

 


He never said he wasn’t…

Well I did say I was a girl on the Photo Thread  

But mostly I figure it doesn’t matter so I don’t say it on every thread… maybe put it in my signature…

Back to topic… I just put more on my 8gb card and need more room! ( Yes I know, I should have just bought the 16gb card…) my internal memory is full too…

"But mostly I figure it doesn’t matter "

 I disagree. Most women, even if they use plenty of high tech gear, don’t like to talk about it. I have always wondered why that is the case. I would love to have a wife who would like discussing high tech stuff(I am single).

“Back to topic… I just put more on my 8gb card and need more room! ( Yes I know, I should have just bought the 16gb card…) my internal memory is full too…” 

It seems difficult to find reasonably priced brand name class 6  16 GB micro SDHC cards. I don’t recall seeing any 16 GB micro SDHC cards by Sandisk faster than class 2. I guess class 2 is okay if you don’t change your  music much. Is my math correct? Can it take over 2 hours to fill an empty 16 GB class 2 card?

@jk98 wrote:

"But mostly I figure it doesn’t matter "

 

 I disagree. Most women, even if they use plenty of high tech gear, don’t like to talk about it. I have always wondered why that is the case. I would love to have a wife who would like discussing high tech stuff(I am single).

 

 

“Back to topic… I just put more on my 8gb card and need more room! ( Yes I know, I should have just bought the 16gb card…) my internal memory is full too…” 

 

 

It seems difficult to find reasonably priced brand name class 6  16 GB micro SDHC cards. I don’t recall seeing any 16 GB micro SDHC cards by Sandisk faster than class 2. I guess class 2 is okay if you don’t change your  music much. Is my math correct? Can it take over 2 hours to fill an empty 16 GB class 2 card?

And how much difference would there be between loading the card through a card reader and loading it while inserted in the Fuze? I think you could bypass the issue somewhat by using the card for the music you planned to keep on your player, and use the internal memory for swapping content…it wouldn’t eliminate refresh time, but it would save on load time, I think.

Message Edited by Marvin_Martian on 09-11-2009 02:03 PM

“And how much difference would there be between loading the card through a card reader and loading it while inserted in the Fuze?”

They will probably be same. On Amazon the 16 GB class 2 Sandisk micro SDHC card is under $40, yet in many stores it seems to be $65-100! I find this huge price difference to be amazing. On other brands of cards the prices in stores are much closer to the Amazon price. Why is that the case? Is the MSRP on the Sandisk cards

very high? This is probably costing Sandisk plenty of market share. I think many people might pay 10-20% more for a Sandisk card than another well known brand, but if the Sandisk card is priced 50% higher, or double the other brand, few people would probably buy the Sandisk card, even if it is for use in a Sandisk player.

Yeah, unfortunately, Sandisk cards are expensive.  At Newegg there’s a bunch of 16GB Class 6 cards at the $50 price point.  The Sandisk card costs $55 and is only Class 2.  And like you said, retail stores are much worse with prices typically 100% more than online.

I’d pay a little more for Sandisk and a little more for instant gratification, but I’m not going to pay double.

@dalaug234 wrote:

 

Well I did say I was a girl on the Photo Thread  

 

But mostly I figure it doesn’t matter so I don’t say it on every thread… maybe put it in my signature…

 

It shouldn’t and doesn’t matter. Not in the least! We’re an EOF (Equal Opportunity Forum) here. Nobody has to divulge what ethnicity they are or where they live, so why should it matter what sex one is?

The discussions we have here and the thoughts expressed by any member have nothing to do with whether that person has X or Y chromosomes.

I have a player where you have to manually update the Library.  I kind of like the feature, as you can update it when it is convenient for you.

@dalaug234 wrote:


@dennisqwilson wrote:


@jk98 wrote:

“In 5 minutes at work I can go to the ladies room and return to my Fuze…”

 

Wow! I thought all the regulars here are male.

 


He never said he wasn’t…


 

 

Well I did say I was a girl on the Photo Thread  

 

But mostly I figure it doesn’t matter so I don’t say it on every thread… maybe put it in my signature…

 

 

Back to topic… I just put more on my 8gb card and need more room! ( Yes I know, I should have just bought the 16gb card…) my internal memory is full too…

I am also female.  woot.  :wink:

I also need more space.  If Apple are going up to 64GB on the touch lord knows Sandisk can on the fuze, or any other player they can bring out (for half - or much less -  the price and better sound). 

@summerlove wrote:


 



 

I also need more space.  If Apple are going up to 64GB on the touch lord knows Sandisk can on the fuze, or any other player they can bring out (for half - or much less -  the price and better sound). 

 

I’ve managed to fit everything I at least semi-regularly listen to on one 16GB, and one 8GB player, audio-wise. That would leave no room for podcasts, video, etc. So I think I could be content with a 32GB player…it wouldn’t hold my whole library, but have enough room for the the important stuff, with room for some vids/podcasts.  For shuffle purposes though, an 8 is good enough for the real heavy rotation stuff.

Hello Summerlove.

 I hope Sandisk comes out with a player with 32GB internal memory, and a full sized SDXC card slot. I hope it will also have at least 50 hours of battery life, and the option to disable tag browsing so there is no delay to refresh the database(imagine how long a database refresh would take with 64 GB of songs!). There are some people who want at least 64 GB of space, and don’t want a player with a hard drive.

@summerlove wrote:

 

I am also female.  woot.  :wink:

 

That was easy to figure out given your screen name. :stuck_out_tongue: