and what about other limitations?
may be, i have to scare another strange problems with programmable limits and low functionality of a player?
my model is not living 25 hours, ~ 10-11 hours of playing. and can’t give me access to all my sound library.
will be anything else, that i must to scare ?
folder playing has no ability to recoursive playing, as i see.
have i to organize my library as flat one-level storage ?
it is a marasmus, as i think.
“Sorry, but if you want the same functuionality as you had with the Clip Zip, return the Sport model and buy another Zip. The Sport is a limited featured player. The ONLY advantage is the increased playing time.”
i did not find, that the time was increased.
player works apprx ~10 hours.
my previous player, clip+, did work same time, ~8-9 hours.
why this player has limited features, if it has no improvements in comparision with previous models?
only downgrade of features.
it is - buttthurt, in my opinion.
Again: “Sorry, but if you want the same functuionality as you had with the Clip Zip, return the Sport model and buy another Zip. The Sport is a limited featured player.” 
shop didn’t want to recieve retrurn ))
they find some little scratch on the display.
but i listen player for two days and …
i like the sound of this player and i want, that functionality will be on a level of comfortability to use.
)
one thing, that i need: free access to my sound library.
all other needful things firmware has done
))
@miikerman wrote:
Again: “Sorry, but if you want the same functuionality as you had with the Clip Zip, return the Sport model and buy another Zip. The Sport is a limited featured player.”
Is this a SanDisk statement?
I don’t know where it came from (see above) and I’m not a SanDisk employee–just one of its consumers. But the statement certainly applies, as even SanDisk itself has said.
after battery is in null, i recharge player, it can’t operate with buttons other, then power on and sound +.
i did rerurn it to shop an d made exchange to sansa clip+
question about limits has disappear.
4393 files new player has counted.
not yet listing a sound, but i had before clip+, i think, that i will not be worried.
I find it absolutely incredible that SanDisk says in the User Manual:
“SanDisk highly recommends updating the MP3 player to the latest firmware. It is highly recommended to update the firmware after the first battery charge”.
After upgrading your player, you will have marginal improvements but 3 degradations:
Song limit has gone from from 4000 to 2000 (already low numbers for a device that accepts 32GB cards).
The radio has lost the RDS function, meaning you don’t see the station name anymore.
You lost the ability to select tracks by Genre (quite useful e.g. if you want to select your “Sports” music).
To make things worse, there appears to be no way back to the original firmware, even though the User Manual says about the Restore function:
“This option restores the player to the original factory settings it had when the device was first purchased”.
When I purchased the device it had firmware 1.09, but after a restore, it still has firmware 1.17!
Apart from this, my Clip Sport randomly quits working when playing songs from the external card. After powering up again it says:
Disk error - Please re-plug card
Giving that they surely screwed things up in the firmware upgrade, I expect they also introduced the disk error problem I am experiencing.
Bottom line: I am considering returning this product to SanDisk.
And then purchase the Zip or Clip+ and be happy. 
Are you being cynical or is the Zip or Clip+ really a good product? Which one is better? I really would like to have a player that is reliable, doesn’t need hours to startup or refresh its database, works with today’s (fast) microSD cards etc.
@mmhmjanssen wrote:
Are you being cynical or is the Zip or Clip+ really a good product? Which one is better? I really would like to have a player that is reliable, doesn’t need hours to startup or refresh its database, works with today’s (fast) microSD cards etc.
Both are good players IMO. I prefer the Zip for its sound characteristic, the rest is more or less identical. Nevertheless, I’m sure with a different card (probably any other card) your Sport would work fine, as my two samples do. Moreover, it meets the refresh time criterion much better than the other two, which take ~15 minutes with a full 32 GB card, and its higher output power is an additional plus, not to speak of the best sound quality of the three (to my ears). On the other hand, I must concede that the Zip’s UI is more to my liking, file number limit included.
@mmhmjanssen wrote:
Are you being cynical or is the Zip or Clip+ really a good product? Which one is better? I really would like to have a player that is reliable, doesn’t need hours to startup or refresh its database, works with today’s (fast) microSD cards etc.
I in fact like the Clip+ and Zip, and they are my go-to players. But do note: they both like the “slower” microSD cards (Class 4 and below) and do have a lengthier refresh–but it is minutes (although sometimes 30 for me), not hours.
@miikerman wrote:
@mmhmjanssen wrote:
Are you being cynical or is the Zip or Clip+ really a good product? Which one is better? I really would like to have a player that is reliable, doesn’t need hours to startup or refresh its database, works with today’s (fast) microSD cards etc.
I in fact like the Clip+ and Zip, and they are my go-to players. But do note: they both like the “slower” microSD cards (Class 4 and below) and do have a lengthier refresh–but it is minutes (although sometimes 30 for me), not hours.
Rockbox seems to solve these issues as well as others on the Clip Zip. Rockbox refreshes in the background. People report that cards faster than class 4 work fine in the Clip Zip when running Rockbox. All my cards are class 4, so I haven’t personally tried faster cards in it. With Rockbox installed the Clip Zip is great, except for the battery life.
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Way true. And, in fact, people have reported no issue (and I otherwise haven’t heard of any) using a Rockboxed Clip with a 128GB microSDXC Card. Now THAT is a good thing!
And as to battery life, tha’s being tinkered with at present, and so some gains there seem likely as well (with Rockbox, that is).
Are you recommending that I use the Rockboxed Clip instead of the clip sport firmware
I guess he is trying to advise people to buy a Clip+ and Rockbox it, instead of buying a Clip Sport.
I have the Clip Sport, as well as Rockboxed Clip+, and Rockboxed Clip Zip players. After using Rockbox Clip+ and Rockbox Clip Zip, when I turn on the Clip Sport I feel like something very important is missing when I can’t boot it up into Rockbox.
@drkgs51 wrote:
Are you recommending that I use the Rockboxed Clip instead of the clip sport firmware
It depends on what you want. If you want the longest battery charge possible and that is most important to you, the Sport is the way to go.
But, the Sport has limitations in the face of the earlier Clip players: a much more limited database in terms of the number of songs that can be maintained in the database (but you still can access all the music under the player’s separate folders option), truncated names on the player’s display, no option to use the 3rd-party Rockbox firmware, no ability to play DRM’ed files (such as from a library). Personally, I find these limitations, well, limiting, apart from in some more limited applications (like exercising), and prefer the earlier Clip+ and Clip Zip players, which don’t have these limitations (but which do have shorter battery charges–but I can live with a 10-15 hour charge, recharging overnight).
Many want much more than 15 hours of battery life. On another website there is great excitement about a player with 90 hours of battery life. We don’t expect 90 hour battery life in a tiny clip on player though. Many of us expected the new model to be a Clip Zip but with a larger capacity battery and a larger screen. I guess Sandisk decided this would cost too much to make, and that it would probably also need a stronger clip to hold the extra weight.
I hope Sandisk makes a new version of the Fuze, built around the circuitry and processor in the Clip Zip, and with controls like on the Clip Zip, but with 50+ hours of battery life, and a screen at least as large as that of the original Fuze, or perhaps a screen the size of the one on the Fuze+. I hope it will be similar enough to the Clip Zip so that adapting the Clip zip firmware for it should be simple, and hopefully we will see Rockbox available for it soon after it is released.
How about a release that recognizes Windows Media Player WPL format. It would be so much easier to worrk with and I don’t have to create a seperate file and copy a couple hundred songs from 60 different folders into one so i can create a M3U play format. Who’s stupid idea was this in the first place. All the other mp3 players accept WPL. Why not the sport?
I lost my old Zip recently, and decided to get a new one at Best Buy (it was nearby…). As you might guess, they offer the Clip Sport instead. The Zip wasn’t prefect, but it fulfill most of what I needed for listening to Podcasts and Audioboks. I figured the Clip Sport would be more or less the same as the Zip. Boy, was I wrong! As far as I am concerned, the Clip Sport is a big step back in terms of usability (just read all the comments from this year). I am going to return it for a refund. SanDisk, if you are listening: for your own sake (if you want to stay in this business), fix the firmware!
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