iPod touch: and so, where's the microSD slot?!?

Cycling the last few days, I’ve been listening to a few backlogged BBC NewsPod episodes.  On the go, you really can’t beat the little Clip+.  I like to run the headset cable down my jacket sleeve, with the device on my wrist like a watch.

When the rain picks up, I simply move it to the jersey sleeve, with the Clip protected under the rain jacket.  It’s the one time when I run with the bud in my right ear only.

The controls are wonderful for this application, a limitation of the Fuze+, as the bigger machine is cumbersome on the fly.

I had forgotten how the Clip+ functions with the podcast “paused”, if the forward button is held, the device zooms through the episodes rapidly, and when returning to your 'cast, it starts at the saved point immediately.  Quite handy.

Every time I boot the wee Clip+, I can’t help but compare the response against the Fuze+.  This little thing is refreshingly fast.

Bob  :stuck_out_tongue:

@neutron_bob wrote:

I must agree with you, GB, they’re on the right track with the Fuze+ in terms of overall size and function.

Except audiobooks, right?  I don’t own the Fuze+, as the posts in that forum seemed to indicate it’s a step backwards from the more dedicated OverDrive audiobooks support of the Fuze/Clip+/Clip.  Yes, there are workarounds, but not as nice as the Fuze’s more direct support.  Is that correct?  Or should I reconsider the Fuze+ for spoken word?  I had read somewhere that the Fuze+'s firmware was based on the Sansa View’s.

[Apologies if this question is too OT.]

@fuze_owner_gb wrote:

 


I have every right to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the clip+ is corrected. 


 

I reread this thread to find out what you think is the major design flaw you want corrected.  It seems it’s the small size, which doesn’t work for you.

But why would you want that “corrected?”

  1. Fuze.  That’s functionally a big Clip+.   Problem solved, no?

  2. Let’s say you don’t like the Fuze as a Clip+ “correction.”  You just want a bigger Clip+.  So despite others loving the Clip+ exactly for its small size, you want us to have no such choice, and that market to be crushed? 

Really, if you bought the Clip+ sight unseen, it was probably for a better internet price–you takes your chances.  It’s time to sell on eBay.

The View firmware is different, in mi4 format, using the NVIDIA chipset.  The Fuze+ solves many problems experienced with the earlier device, having a nice display for video, and it’s more open to various video sources.

The Fuze+ uses the Freescale processor, a new device for the Sansa, with firmware in the sb format.

I like the seamless way the AMS processor Sansas handle audiobooks, this includes the two Clips, the e200v2, and the original Fuze.

For the Fuze+, development and “tweaking” of the interface is ongoing, just like the previous models when they debuted.

If you have a look at the motherboard of the View, its population of chips is stunning, it has a lot of hardware in there.

Bob  :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks much, neutron_bob.  Always appreciate your knowledgeable posts.  Will be reconsidering the Fuze+, esp. for its bigger 2.4" screen and more standard video support (there’s probably a V-mate format that will allow me to pop in a recorded card and play).

@jj2me wrote:

 




 

  1. Fuze.  That’s functionally a big Clip+.   Problem solved, no?
  1. Let’s say you don’t like the Fuze as a Clip+ “correction.”  You just want a bigger Clip+.  So despite others loving the Clip+ exactly for its small size, you want us to have no such choice, and that market to be crushed? 

 

 

As far as I am concerned, the only thing the Fuze has over the Clip+ is battery life and the color screen (for the album art lovers) . But I vastly prefer the buttons of the Clip+ over the Fuze’s scrollwheel. I was hoping the Fuze+ would end up being a bigger Clip+, at least control-wise. However, I have two of each, Fuze and Clip+,  and with Rockbox to unleash their capabilities a little more, I have uses for all four players. Will that change when I get a Touch? Perhaps…that might be the time to sell one of the Fuzes.

I am not a “Fuze-basher” per se…the Fuze was my first ever MP3 player, and a great way to get into the hobby…(manual? I don’t need no steenking manual with this thing). :stuck_out_tongue: When the Clip+ hit the scene,though,  I was definitely over the scrollwheel, at least for on-the-go use. Now, I use my V1 Fuze as a source hooked to powered computer speakers at work…set it to shuffle all and it’s good to go…and the V2 Fuze for bedtime listening with my Grados. Everywhere else, I use the Clip+'s.

@fuze_owner_gb wrote:

 


Oh, mr. outta here is back…  No surprise.


The only way manufacturer’s are going to change their products, is by actually listening to customer complaints.  If they don’t, it’s their loss, not mine.


Not that I need your approval, but since I own a Clip+, I have every right to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the clip+ is corrected.  Oh, and if I ruffle your feathers along the way, all the better…:smileyvery-happy:

 

PS.  I guess you were too busy listening to yourself talk to notice that I really, really like the Fuze+.  Best Sansa product I’ve ever owned…


 LOL--  Glad you have your hobby–you seem to just want to argue.  LOL.

 

And yes, post as much as you want–but there’s no “major design flaw” of the Clip, as much as you post about it.  Just that the Clip doesn’t fit your fingers. Most people don’t seem to have that problem.  You’re not ruffling any feathers–you’ve already established yourself.  LOL.

fuze_owner-GB wrote: 


Oh, mr. outta here is back…  No surprise.


The
only way manufacturer’s are going to change their products, is by
actually listening to customer complaints.  If they don’t, it’s their
loss, not mine.


Not
that I need your approval, but since I own a Clip+, I have every right
to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the
clip+ is corrected.  Oh, and if I ruffle your feathers along the way,
all the better…:smileyvery-happy:

 

PS. 
I guess you were too busy listening to yourself talk to notice that I
really, really like the Fuze+.  Best Sansa product I’ve ever owned…


 LOL--  Glad you have your hobby–you seem to just want to argue.  :smileyvery-happy:

 

And yes, post as much as you want–but there’s no “major design flaw” of the Clip, as much as you post about it.  Just that the Clip doesn’t fit your fingers. Most people don’t seem to have that problem.  You’re not ruffling any feathers–you’ve already established yourself.  And glad you like the Fuze (but this is the Clip forum)–hopefully you’re posting there.

fuze_owner-GB wrote: 


Oh, mr. outta here is back…  No surprise.


The
only way manufacturer’s are going to change their products, is by
actually listening to customer complaints.  If they don’t, it’s their
loss, not mine.


Not
that I need your approval, but since I own a Clip+, I have every right
to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the
clip+ is corrected.  Oh, and if I ruffle your feathers along the way,
all the better…:smileyvery-happy:

 

PS. 
I guess you were too busy listening to yourself talk to notice that I
really, really like the Fuze+.  Best Sansa product I’ve ever owned…


 LOL--  Glad you have your hobby, posting in the thread I started.   :smileyvery-happy:

 

And yes, post as much as you want–but there’s no “major design flaw” of the Clip, as much as you post about it.  It’s just your issue, that the Clip doesn’t fit your fingers. Most people don’t have that problem.  You’re not ruffling any feathers–you’ve already established yourself.  And glad you like the Fuze and that it fits your needs (but this is the Clip forum)–that’s why companies have different models.  Hopefully you’re posting in that forum.

@miikerman wrote:


fuze_owner-GB wrote: 


Oh, mr. outta here is back…  No surprise.


The
only way manufacturer’s are going to change their products, is by
actually listening to customer complaints.  If they don’t, it’s their
loss, not mine.


Not
that I need your approval, but since I own a Clip+, I have every right
to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the
clip+ is corrected.  Oh, and if I ruffle your feathers along the way,
all the better…:smileyvery-happy:

 

PS. 
I guess you were too busy listening to yourself talk to notice that I
really, really like the Fuze+.  Best Sansa product I’ve ever owned…


 LOL--  Glad you have your hobby, posting in the thread I started.   :smileyvery-happy:

 

And yes, post as much as you want–but there’s no “major design flaw” of the Clip, as much as you post about it.  It’s just your issue, that the Clip doesn’t fit your fingers. Most people don’t have that problem.  You’re not ruffling any feathers–you’ve already established yourself. And glad you like the Fuze and that it fits your needs (but this is the Clip forum)–that’s why companies have different models.  Hopefully you’re posting in that forum.


and says you can’t play the “but this is the Clip forum” card, when you started this thread, which is titled “Re: iPod touch: and so, where’s the microSD slot?!?” in the Clip forum.:stuck_out_tongue:

@marvin_martian wrote:

 


@miikerman wrote:


fuze_owner-GB wrote: 


Oh, mr. outta here is back…  No surprise.


The
only way manufacturer’s are going to change their products, is by
actually listening to customer complaints.  If they don’t, it’s their
loss, not mine.


Not
that I need your approval, but since I own a Clip+, I have every right
to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the
clip+ is corrected.  Oh, and if I ruffle your feathers along the way,
all the better…:smileyvery-happy:

 

PS. 
I guess you were too busy listening to yourself talk to notice that I
really, really like the Fuze+.  Best Sansa product I’ve ever owned…


 LOL--  Glad you have your hobby, posting in the thread I started.   :smileyvery-happy:

 

And yes, post as much as you want–but there’s no “major design flaw” of the Clip, as much as you post about it.  It’s just your issue, that the Clip doesn’t fit your fingers. Most people don’t have that problem.  You’re not ruffling any feathers–you’ve already established yourself. And glad you like the Fuze and that it fits your needs (but this is the Clip forum)–that’s why companies have different models.  Hopefully you’re posting in that forum.


 

 


and says you can’t play the “but this is the Clip forum” card, when you started this thread, which is titled “Re: iPod touch: and so, where’s the microSD slot?!?” in the Clip forum.:stuck_out_tongue:

 

Good point, MM.  I still think this whole thread is hilarious… How devoted people are to a stupid media player…and how upset they become when someone else doesn’t appreciate their “ideal player”…:smileyvery-happy: :smileyvery-happy: :smileyvery-happy:

 

The clip series could be good players if Sandisk took 5 minutes and did a few things to improve the functionality for those with larger hands and correct the horrid battery life.   Also, to add .aac support would be nice so us users of that format wouldn’t have to install the bloated Rockbox.  But, in reallity, I doubt if any of those things will ever happen.  But No big deal for me.  It’s quite evident to me that the media player segment of Sandisk’s company is more of a hobby than anything else.

 

Hey, this thread was a good start, but like MM pointed out; it was placed in the wrong section.  There needs to be a iPod or iPod Touch section on the Sansa board!   :smileyvery-happy: :wink: :smileyvery-happy:

@jj2me wrote:

 


@fuze_owner_gb wrote:

 


I have every right to post as many times as I see fit, until the major design flaw of the clip+ is corrected. 


 

 

I reread this thread to find out what you think is the major design flaw you want corrected.  It seems it’s the small size, which doesn’t work for you.

 

But why would you want that “corrected?”

  1. Fuze.  That’s functionally a big Clip+.   Problem solved, no?
  1. Let’s say you don’t like the Fuze as a Clip+ “correction.”  You just want a bigger Clip+.  So despite others loving the Clip+ exactly for its small size, you want us to have no such choice, and that market to be crushed? 

 

Really, if you bought the Clip+ sight unseen, it was probably for a better internet price–you takes your chances.  It’s time to sell on eBay.

 

Nah, more bother than it’s worth.  Money isn’t the issue, the product is.  If I feel that I don’t want to keep it any longer, I will have great delight in smashing it to bits using my favorite sledgehammer…:smileyvery-happy:

 

 

@fuze_owner_gb wrote:

 

 

The clip series could be good players if Sandisk took 5 minutes and did a few things to improve the functionality for those with larger hands and correct the horrid battery life.   Also, to add .aac support would be nice so us users of that format wouldn’t have to install the bloated Rockbox.  But, in reallity, I doubt if any of those things will ever happen.  But No big deal for me.  It’s quite evident to me that the media player segment of Sandisk’s company is more of a hobby than anything else.

 

Hey, this thread was a good start, but like MM pointed out; it was placed in the wrong section.  There needs to be a iPod or iPod Touch section on the Sansa board!   :smileyvery-happy: :wink: :smileyvery-happy:


 

I guess SanDisk does have a player for people with “larger fingers”:  the Fuze (which you like).  But for the life of me, with my Clip in front of me right now, I just don’t see a problem for larger fingers (but then, I guess I just don’t have them).  I agree that more battery life would be nice–but for a player this size, I can deal with a full day’s worth of charge (and just recharge at night).  As to aac support, I think SanDisk goofed, there–it would help bring in the iPod crowd and more than make up for the aac license fee–or hey, SanDisk, just raise the price of the Clip a dollar.  (But Rockbox bloated?  Maybe in features …)

And sorry, but I placed this thread here on purpose:  to note the great benifit, again, of the microSD card slot in the small Clip+, when something as nice as the iPod touch doesn’t have a slot.  Remember the topic of this thread?   :wink:

@fuze_owner_gb wrote:

The
clip series could be good players if Sandisk took 5 minutes and did a
few things to improve the functionality for those with larger hands and
correct the horrid battery
life.   Also, to add .aac support would be nice so us users of that
format wouldn’t have to install the bloated Rockbox.  But, in reallity,
I doubt if any of those things will ever happen.  But No big deal for
me.  It’s quite evident to me that the media player segment of
Sandisk’s company is more of a hobby than anything else.

 

Hey,
this thread was a good start, but like MM pointed out; it was placed in
the wrong section.  There needs to be a iPod or iPod Touch section on
the Sansa board!   :smileyvery-happy: :wink: :smileyvery-happy:


 I guess SanDisk does have a player for people with “larger fingers”:  the Fuze.  But for the life of me, with my Clip in front of me right now, I just don’t see a problem for larger fingers (but then, I guess I just don’t have them).  I agree that more battery life would be nice–but for a player this size, I can deal with a full day’s worth of charge (and just recharge at night).  As to aac support, I also think SanDisk goofed, there–it would help bring in the iPod crowd and more than make up for the aac license fee–or hey, SanDisk, just raise the price of the Clip a dollar.  (But Rockbox bloated?  Maybe in features …)

And sorry, but I placed this thread here on purpose:  to note the great benifit, again, of the microSD card slot in the small Clip+, when something as nice as the iPod touch doesn’t have a slot.  Hey, folks, remember the topic of this thread?   :wink:

(By the way and off the topic of this thread, I just checked the specs. and it looks like the iPod Sfuffle is rated at 15 hours for the battery.  It just looks like for something this small and at this pricepoint, that’s “all” that current battery technology allows.  But no doubt, that will increase.) 

(By the way and off the topic of this thread, I just checked the specs. and it looks like the iPod Shuffle is rated at 15 hours for the battery.  It just looks like for something this small and at this pricepoint, that’s “all” that current battery technology allows.  But no doubt, that will increase.)

While everyone has their own opinion on what an ideal PMP is, we need to understand this is not the place for arguments over the issue. Each PMP discussed in this thread is strategically designed for a specific purpose. While the design of a particular device may not fit your needs, calling the intended design of a product a flaw is a little misleading.

The The Clip+ is a player designed specifically for its small size and ultra portability. Comparing the iTouch and the Clip+ is like comparing apples to oranges (no pun intended). If a larger device with touch screen and application capabilities more suites your needs in a PMP then by all means you should pursue a device that has these features. If a small ultra portable PMP with expandable storage fits your needs well then I think there is no player better on the market then the Clip+.  

That being said I would like to urge you all to respect the opinion of others when posting on this forum. There is really no need to bring such a trivial difference of opinion to an argument like this thread has become. 

Forum Admin

slotmonsta

Thanks for your explanation of the Sansa product line.  It makes it clearer than ever to me that Sansa products are not the correct fit for me.  I, being a quality minded individual, and Sandisk being a budget minded one…we are worlds apart.


See y’all on the flip-side…I’m off to iLounge…:smiley:

LOL.  I have a quality player, universally seen as such, that meets my needs in the ultraportable field, with screen, FM radio, recordability, folder navigation, and expandability via a microSD slot (the original topic of this thread, and which it would be great to see consumers demanding in all players)–it’s a Sansa Clip+.  Coincidentally, it also comes at a great price.  

:slight_smile:

Well, once my next paycheck arrives, I shall have the cash on hand to get the 32GB Touch. As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part.:dizzy_face: