Future FUZE upgrades. What would you like to see?

On the hardware side, 32Gb base capacity, a MUCH more scratch resistant screen, a MUCH better power button (this tiny thing is crap) / more tactile feedback / control over the wheel.

Message Edited by roj on 10-13-2009 02:02 PM

Given the special status of Audiobooks and Podcasts in the fuze, it would be nice if these genres could have their own home option icons on the home menu to separate them from the Music Icon [e.g. like Radio and Video are]…     

For Audiobooks (indeed any Music track), introducing full ‘wrap-around’ such as provided on the Clip and E200  would be very much appreciated.  When passing from one chapter to the next on my e200 and on my Clip if I want to rewind a bit (say over the last 2 minutes of the last chapter] it is just a matter of pressing the rewind button and back you go.  On the Fuze the rewind just stops at the beginning of the current track/chapter; to go back the last few minutes you have to go back to the beginning of the last chapter and fast-forward through the chapter, which is a nuisance and very hands on.   

But by far the most desirable update would be to have a slow and fast play speed option that was pitch corrected – the current option seems to me to be generally pointless [more a squeak or groan option] – maybe some work could be done on this whilst work on correction of  the pitch error on the Clip is being undertaken?

 

Keep up the good work.  :wink:

Hi all:

I echo what some other posters with some additional suggestions

  1. Higher capacity Fuzes+ bigger screens (say 2,5-3 inch screen)

  2. adapters for Ipod accessories

  3. integrated Bluetooth

  4. Native JPEG et PNG support

  5. Ability to view Youtube and other internet video sites natively

xavier

HEYYA People.!

@fuzeuser1,A BIGGER SCREEN WOULD BE GREAT.But it will ruin one of the greatest feature’s in this player which is it’s Size.A Screen at about 2 or 2.2 will do in my opinion.But more than that I’d love to see the Screen Resolution increased.If I were to watch movie’s I’d rather go for a Zune HD.Just my opinion.But the Fuze really need’s a newer GUI.

-What I’d love to have is a Newer GUI 

-Gapless.

-Better support for Video’s.(Format wise.)

-An improved Sansa Media Converter.

And btw SanDisk.Great Job on the new Sansa Fuze Firmware,It was an essential update.BUT wish you could solve the Replay Gain problem on Version.2 fuze’s,As soon as possible.The new Firmware definitely improved the Radio. 

Thank’s,

SR 

MicroSD for future Clip+ sized devices.

Regular SD for Fuze/View sized devices.   

Message Edited by saratoga on 10-14-2009 01:00 PM

That would be interesting with 32 GB internally.  There’s probably room in the housing to accomplish that without enlarging the unit anymore.  I wonder if you could still add a 16 GB Micro SD card, thereby bringing the total memory to 48 Gigs!  That should be enough for most junkies.

I have the 8-gb model have several 4 and 8 gb cards for switching out Podcasts, other genres,  and movies.  That’s sufficient for my needs right now.

Gapless playback or a speaker built in the fuze for others to enjoy

What great ideas!  Gapless play would be a big plus.  Also, somebody makes an MP3 player with stereo speakers…I can’t recall right now who it is.  A speaker on this model would be nice, if there is room without enlarging the unit.  I like the size right now, even with a clear cover on the unit.

Several users have mentioned the “recessed” power button, which is a bothersome area, and even more so with a cover installed.  There should not be much of a problem making the ridge for a finger(nail) stand out a little more.  I don’t think its going to turn on or off by itself with the heavy spring-loaded action present now.

@challenger wrote:

What great ideas!  Gapless play would be a big plus.  Also, somebody makes an MP3 player with stereo speakers…I can’t recall right now who it is.  A speaker on this model would be nice, if there is room without enlarging the unit.  I like the size right now, even with a clear cover on the unit.

 

Several users have mentioned the “recessed” power button, which is a bothersome area, and even more so with a cover installed.  There should not be much of a problem making the ridge for a finger(nail) stand out a little more.  I don’t think its going to turn on or off by itself with the heavy spring-loaded action present now.

I have the player with stereo speakers…it’s the Sony in my sig. They are not exactly “hi-fidelity”. Can you hear it in a quiet room? Sure. But they don’t sound very good, which is no surprise. And the rated battery life drops from 42, with headphones,  to 17 hours with the speakers. 

They’re useful for a few minutes here and there…for example, if you are getting dressed, and headphones would get in the way…or when you want to ask someone, “have you heard this song?” They also allow the use of the alarm clock built in to the player. But they are not the reason I bought the player, for sure. I briefly had a Creative Zen Mozaic which had a speaker too, and the same negatives came into play, with the addition of the fact that the Mozaic only had the one speaker.

A built in speaker would be handy for listening to podcasts or lectures, however I wouldn’t want to listen to music on it.

I don’t understand the obsession with gapless. Many songs have empty space before or after the song. Are you going to edit all those songs to eliminate the blank time?

@jk98 wrote:

A built in speaker would be handy for listening to podcasts or lectures, however I wouldn’t want to listen to music on it.

 

I don’t understand the obsession with gapless. Many songs have empty space before or after the song. Are you going to edit all those songs to eliminate the blank time?

 

 

Gapless is not for the songs you describe…it’s for albums designed to not have that blank space between songs, like live concert albums, Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of The Moon and The Wall, and electronic DJ mixes. A gapless-enabled player will play a non-gapless album normally…only the albums meant to be gapless will play that way.

Speakers also reduce water resistance.

To sum:

Slightly larger screen

Glass screen

32gb internally

MicroSDXC

Better power button

Gapless

Resume Audiobook/Podcasts

Marvin, I agree with you on the speaker quality in MP3 players.  Mine sounds good hooked up to my Sony surround system, or even a Pioneer QRX-747 mid-70s Quadraphonic unit.  I something use mine like you suggested, but with a small flip-out set of battery operated speakers.  They will fill a medium room if the room is quiet.

Its a handy bonus for listening while in the bathroom and dressing, as you stated.  The earpieces kind of get in the way while shaving…lol.

 I also have an interesting item with a good sounding speaker.  It’s one of my GPS units, Clarion model 430 with a MP3 PLAYER, built-in speaker, Bluetooth, and phone dialing.  Maps are hard to get updated, but it’s a good player with enough volume to fill a room.

I’m pleased with battery life on the Fuze. I only end up charging it once or twice a week.

One thing I’d DEFINITELY like to see for the Fuze is F\OSS (Free and Open Source Software, Free here meaning Freedom) Firmware. Why? Well let’s analyze this:

  1.  Those of us who know how to program in the Fuze’s language can help the Sansa team with debugging the new firmwares (more debuggers means a more stable Fuze) and help add requested features. In addition, we could find more of the security holes in it, as in, say, if someone could crack my Fuze via the FM Radio or while it’s connected to the computer and totally jam it up – think about it, for every cracker (hackers in the Linux world are coders, crackers are the ones that “crack” into things) that would target Fuze users, there are at least five Fuze fans (just a guess), so the fans definitely outnumber the crackers; taking this into account, we are more likely to fix the security holes than get hacked. Also, once I learn the language, I can customize my Fuze however I want.
  2. The Sansa team would attract more Linux users, and more users of the F\OSS community, more money for Sandisk :smileyvery-happy: Of course, people who don’t know about F\OSS wouldn’t know the difference, so no loss there :wink:
  3. This would make it easier for the makers of F\OSS firmwares (e.g. Rockbox) to decode the Fuze and port their firmware. Why is this so important? Some people like to have more choices than just ONE. I have enjoyed using Rockbox on my V1 Fuze (I don’t think that it works on V2 yet), but there are some glitches, the most annoying one where it reverts back to the Sansa firmware after disconnecting it from the computer because they’ve been unable to decode the proprietary USB on the Fuze as of yet. Making a F\OSS firmware from Sansa would make this process a LOT easier.
  4. This would make it more compatible and supportable in the Linux world. While this does not affect Windows users (the support would remain the same – unless, of course, the Windows user were to install a third party firmware, but then the third party can support the user or the user can easily revert back), it would definitely be a major improvement for Linux users like me. Also, this would more likely than not build up more of a community for the Fuze, and therefore take a load off of the Sansa support team to work on improving their version of the firmware and to support the other Sansa players.

Get the picture? I say we start a petition somewhere to F\OSS the firmware! :smileyvery-happy:

Oh, and expand the OS support to, say, other Unixes, such as the *BSDs, *Solaris,  MINIX (yes, MINIX is still around), etc. And not just Unix, but any other OS still in existence. There is more to computers than Micro$#!% Winblows, Macintosh, and Linux.

Message Edited by Pikidalto on 10-18-2009 10:53 PM

Seems everyone is overlooking one feature that I think would be the best.

I like to listen to audiobooks and not all audiobooks are aac format or audible format.  A lot are found in mp3 format.

Everytime I load my FUZE I have to remove others that may clash with ID3 tag settings or whatever.  I don’t like to spend forever fixing the Tags or filenames or shortening the filename until it lookes like **bleep** to be able to find it on the player.

Just simply.  A way to shut down parts of the menu in the system and customize your own.

I see they have set the Slot Radio feature first in the first tier of the menu but have not placed audiobooks there.

If they can change the menu with an upgrade, why can’t the customer.  Give us a menu or a way to make the menu the way we want.  Just like on our computer.

I don’t care for a menu that compiles my music by recently added or artists or albums or songs.  If I load my player with the albums in folders.  Problem solved  Player looks at Tag for track # or file name and plays in selected order Problem solved.

To me most of us listen to our music with a logical approach and don’t need 20 or more different ways to access it.  It just makes for a sloppy player to put it all on one plate and hope that the Tags are correct and your system can figure it out.

That is how I think the White Screen of Death hits a player.  When it tries to figure out what the tag says and gets a conflict.  I have come across 2 players now that have given me the WSOD and I am thinking it is because the system cannot handle some of the Tags.

Not to negate what you say, but I think many of us here run our players in ‘expert mode’, i.e… We want to not worry about certain things and there are others we do care about.

The reality of the general market is that probably 90+% of users don’t know about folders, tags, formats and the like. They just expect to get their files via iTunes or wherever and that afterwards the music magically shows up in some logical order on their players. Therefore the player must be able to sort by genre’, artist, etc  and be able to figure out which are audio books and the like. This (I believe) means that the firmware on any marketable player must be able to do those things well or it’s not competitive. For example a player could be made that only supported folder playback, but that 90+% of the market would never buy it.

One issue is standards:  if we assume that everything we put on a player is ‘tagged’ correctly, there is no problem, otherwise it comes down to an issue of where the thing eventually shows up on the player. That same issue would appear on any player, not just the sansa, for poorly tagged items.

That’s also why playback by folder is a ‘cool’ thing to us… It ignores the tags.

Maybe I’m wrong…

I wish for a simple one, that there are no glitch in sound playback, if we scroll the audio files while listening the music played at the same time

I haven’t noticed any glitches or pauses in my playback during browsing other files or even other folders.  Has anyone else had this problem?

  1. Higher capacity Fuzes+ bigger screens (say 2,5-3 inch screen)

  2. adapters for Ipod accessories

  3. integrated Bluetooth

  4. Native JPEG et PNG support

  5. Ability to view Youtube and other internet video sites natively

Xavier suggested all the above features.  Why don’t we just add WiFi to the Fuze, so we can watch all this YouTube and other streaming activity.:wink:  I like Internet FM and XM Radio so much that I “stream” mine around the house via FM modulation on the lower end of the FM dial. 

The FM receiver seems pretty sensitive, but it would be very convenient to have all this available on WiFi.  But, don’t we have this capability on other devices?

Higher capacity Fuzes and larger screens:  I have been reading and studying about “bubble memory” since I was a teenager in the Fifties (not to give away any hints to my age).  I used to subscribe to “Popular Electronics” and “Electronics Illustrated” back in the 50s-60s.  Those great and informative magazines have long since disappeared.  Back to my point; I would have envisioned bubble memory (small scale memory of today) small enough to fit, say, 50-100 gigabytes or more, into the Fuze case.  This was discussed more than 50 years ago.  But, don’t we have this capability on other devices?

As for really large screens without increasing the unit size substantially…Pocket magnifier? :neutral_face:  But, don’t we have this capability on other devices?

And I would like Bluetooth, so I can make calls while my cell phone/Iphone stays on my belt.  A bluetooth mouse would also be handy for navigating the menus and folders on my Fuze.  Hey, that would allow me to do all this while carrying around only four electronic items, not including the magifier.:smileyvery-happy:  But, don’t we have this capability on other devices?

Native Jpeg support and presentation on the Fuze?  If only the Iphone and other “feature” phones were the size of the Fuze…:smiley:

Xavier, those were good points you made.  I was just adding a little crazy humor…I hope.

3 things for me would make this player the best:

  • True On-The-Fly playlisting.

  • More PUSH AND HOLD options (shuffle, track info just to name 2 ideas)

  • Some more play options. I would love to be able to PLAY > MUSIC > TRACKS added a week ago, a month ago, 6 months ago…

or

Play > All 1 star music, 2 star music

or

Play > stuff I have not listened to in 1 week, 2 weeks, a month.

My old player had that last option (actually all 3) and I miss it SO bad. :wink:

Message Edited by Peregrine on 10-20-2009 11:46 AM