E260 4GB SD card

Thank you very much. I did see the Find Album Info in upper right hand corner and used that to find the album info. However, it prints our the entire album description, such as “The Millenium Edition…etc.” I just want to use the artist’s name for the title of the album.

Any ideas how to have Sansa show the album name the way we want?

Would you please tell me what you meant by “If you choose to edit the tags using MP3Tag, once you select “write” to this format, all albums will automatically be written inb the correct format for you.?”     “Write to this format.” ???

Thank you for your help.

Alice

P.S. I tried to update to MS Media Player 11, (clicked on the Help in 10 and then clicked on check for updates) and it says you are using latest version 10.

Message Edited by bobbyz on 04-30-2010 09:38 PM

Open mp3tag. Look for Tools, click on it, click on Options and you’ll see Tags and Mpegs under that. Click on Mpegs and you’ll see Read and Write. Let it Read everything and Remove everything–check them all–and for Write change it to ID3v2.3 ISO-8859-1. Click OK. Now whenever mp3tag saves a tag it will save it so the Sansa can read it most easily. 

Right-click on one of your problem albums. You should see all the files listed–hopefully in order of play, not alphabetically.  It’s going to depend on how the files are named. (If they’re alphabetical, because nobody put numbers in the filenames, click on the top of the Track column–assuming they have track  numbers.) Now you can change all of their tags at once, by highlighting them all and putting Artist or Album in one of the boxes at the right, and going to File and Save Tag.

Once the Sansa can read the tags, it can sort them in the ways you see under Music: by Album, Artist, Song (title), Genre. 

You can do whatever you want in any of the tag boxes, and that’s what the Sansa will read. If you want to change all of your The Beatles albums to have Beatles as Artist instead, you can do that.

But I recommend keeping the original album titles. On the Sansa you can then turn to Artist and get the albums listed alphabetically under that. 

If you have multiple albums by one artist and also change Album to be the same as Artist, you’ll get a jumble. Track one of one album will play, followed by track one of another album, etc., followed by all the track 2s. 

But you can really do as you please. Some people add the release year to album titles, like  1963 Meet the Beatles, 1964 A Hard Day’s Night, 1965 Rubber Soul, etc. Then under Artist you get the albums listed in career order.  

I strongly recommend that when you’ve done whatever else you want, that you highlight the tracks–again, in playing order, top to bottom–and go to Tools and the Auto-Numbering Wizard.  Tick the Leading Zeroes option and run it. Otherwise, the Sansa is going to go by the first digit of the track number, so 1, 11, and 12 will play before 2 and 3. 

As for WMP 10, don’t worry about updating it as long as it works. What is your computer’s operating system? (Windows 2000, XP, Vista, etc.)? 

Thank you.

Re: Your: "I strongly recommend that when you’ve done whatever else you want, that you highlight the tracks–again, in playing order, top to bottom–and go to Tools and the Auto-Numbering Wizard. "

I went to Tools (at top) but do not see 'Auto-Numbering Wizard."

There is one artist/album that is very confusing to us. When we attach Sansa to computer and look in Explorer, we see album: Ben E. King and the 12 songs are listed on right side. (The way I want it.)

When we open the MP3TAG we see same thing.

However, when we disconnect the Sansa and look in Albums, I don’t see Ben E. King, but “The Ultimate Collection:Stand By Me / Best of Ben E. King / Ben E. King with the Drifters” Which is a rather long title! When I click on that, I see all 12 songs.

But, when I look in Artists, I see: “Ben E. King.” Click on that and I see “Ultimate Collection” with 8 songs in it.

Also see (in Artists): “Ben E. King: The Drifters” Click on that and see “Ultimate Collection” with 2 songs in it.

Also see: “Ben E. KingA” Click on that and see “Ultimate Collection” with 2 songs in it.

I did highlight all 12 songs when I attached the Sansa and highlighted them all and clicked on Files and then Save Tags.

Any idea on how to get the album title on Sansa to just read “Ben E. King” rather than that long one?

And, how to get Artists to have just one Ben E. King with all 12 songs in it?

If no solution, I’ll just leave everthing as it is, but it is just a bit confusing when my husband is using the Sansa.

Re your question…   He has WinXPsp3. We will not worry about updating to WMP 11, as I think he tried to do that a few months ago and he got some sort of an error message and discontinued the update.

Does the WMP 11 overwrite the WMP 10? Or does WMP 10 have to be uninstalled first?

Thanks for your time and help.

Alice

Click on Tools to see Auto-Numbering. 


I know what follows looks long, but once you get the hang of it, it’s very quick and painless. 

The Fuze lists Album, Artist, Song (Title) from the tags.  Whatever is in Album is what the Sansa is going to display as the album title. Not the folder name. It’s the electronic labels, the ID3 tags, that show on the Fuze listings.

You can change any tag you want in mp3tag–and change an entire album all at once so it’s consistent. 

Open the album with mp3tag. Highlight all the files. On the left pane of mp3tag, you will see Title, Artist, Album, Year, etc. and, lower down, Album Artist. (Album Artist is for albums like a soundtrack, with multiple artists, while Artist is who performed each track. You can ignore Album Artist. The Fuze lists Artist from the Artist tag.) 

With the files highlighted, when the tags are all the same throughout the album, you’ll see what that consistent label is–like the Album title, since all the tracks are on the same album. I expect you’ll see the whole “Ultimate Collection” mouthful there, which is where the Fuze is getting it. 

Meanwhile, if you see <keep>, that means that what’s in the field changes for the multiple tracks you have highlighted. So of course Title (song title) will say <keep> because each song has a different title. 

Because that Ben E. King album is a compilation, the people who tagged it gave you too much information–listing all the different groups he was in: the Drifters, etc. 

So you’ll see <keep> in Artist. 

When you see <keep>, you can click it and see in a drop-down menu what all the various Artist designations are. You can pick one–like Ben E. King–or just type in whatever you want.   Then (under File) Save tags. Now Artist reads Ben E. King for all the tracks. And if you want to shorten the title in Album, go ahead: With all the tracks highlighted, type it in and Save.  It’s your music. 

Make sure you are re-tagging the copy of the album that’s on your Fuze–or drag-and-drop it off the Fuze onto your desktop (or anywhere you want), fix the tags, and send it back. (I’ve done some lovely re-tagging myself on the copy in my computer, then forgotten to transfer it…)


Think of the system as a catalog. Windows Explorer is actually pretty stupid–all it can see is one name (a folder, a file, etc.) alphabetically. All the folders in Windows, in effect, have just one label that Windows can read.

But with tags, every file has more than one label. It’s labeled by Album, Artist, (song) Title, etc. And by reading the tags, the Fuze can sort them all those different ways for you.  But of course, the tags have to be usable first.


Meanwhile, if you do want to navigate via folders and filenames like Windows Explorer, you can do that. Under Music, the last choice should be Folders.  Click on it and you can go through them as you would in Windows Explorer.

If you don’t see Folders as a choice under Music–scroll all the way down the list, there’s more than one screenful–then you need to update the firmware. There are instructions near the top of the forum. Don’t install Sansa Updater, which will try to phone home every time you connect. Just do the manual installation–download software, drag it into the Fuze, and disconnect (follow the more detailed directions). 


You shouldn’t have to uninstall WMP 10 to install WMP 11. Your son can right-click on Help to see Check for Updates and try to do it that way–or, if Help isn’t visible, right-click on the very top of the window to see Help, click Help, etc.–or just leave it as is if it’s working. Every Windows Media Player just gets more bloated, and if 10 is working, I’d leave it alone. 

Thanks for all the help.

I tried everything and didn’t seem to work. I deleted Ben E King from the Sansa e260 and then reinstalled again, but only tried 6 songs this time. I changed the left side of mp3tag so album was Ben E. King and artist was Ben E. King.

When I look in Sansa I see one album which says Ben E. King and when I click on that I do see all 6 songs. When I click on Artist I see Ben E. King with 4 songs and also Ben E King/The Drifters for 2 songs. I don’t know how to get rid of that Ben E. King/The Drifters in the Artists with the 2 songs and have the 2 songs switched to the Ben E King (artist). Maybe because of the album info from the Internet, there is no way to get rid of that.

I guess I will just have to let it remain “as is,” as long as the Album shows Ben E. King with all 6 songs in it, and forget about looking at the Artists category.

And, don’t want to take up any more of your time.

Thanks again

Alice

P.S.  When I turn on the Sansa it always starts with “Refresh Database.” I don’t remember seeing that so often in the past when the Sansa was turned on.