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UbTapes
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Registered: ‎08-31-2011
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Re: Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.12

Hi,

I do see that there is a new version 1.15 out there, is this already what we can change it to G Format?

 

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Tapeworm
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Registered: ‎04-17-2008
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Re: Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.12


UbTapes wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the reply,

I know this, but I am looking for a real solution, its too easy to turn it back on

We are selling it to communites were radio is not allowed! so I need a permanant solution or something like the clppg.bin which we had for the sansa clip +

Is there a more effective solution for that?

 

I would appreciate any help


Why don't you just buy it from the correct distributor for your geographical area to begin with? Sounds to me like you're trying to circumvent a legality and/or buying them cheaper somewhere else and then trying to cover your tracks by 'removing' the radio.

 

Sure glad I don't live anywhere near where you're doing business.

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gwk1967
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Re: Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.12

If I may ask, why is radio not allowed anyway? And what's to prevent your customers from just downloading a non-"G" firmware and re-enabling the radio? Or are they forbidden to use the internet too?

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neutron_bob
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Re: Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.12

I don't see anything shady about conforming to a local regulation.  Sellers can ship worldwide, and there are regions with legal requirements regarding radio reception.  In some countries radio reception is taxed, or there's a device fee, etc.

 

Being able to install the correct firmware for a given region is important to comply with local regulations.  Previous Sansas allowed this, so the capability makes sense.  The end user can circumvent the cabability, but it meets regulatory requirements. 

 

Just think of the EU requirement to inhibit the volume level.

 

Bob  :smileywink:

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Miikerman
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Registered: ‎12-11-2007
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Re: Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.12

Right now, with the Clip Zip's limited international release--only in the U.S. right now, as far as I am aware--I can understand some people wanting to buy now in or via the U.S., if possible, so as not having to wait for a later release date in a particular country, and then adapting the firmware as needed.  Always fun to get the latest technology or gadget.  And these wee things are easily mail-able or otherwise transportable.   :smileywink:

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Tapeworm
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Re: Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.12


neutron_bob wrote:

I don't see anything shady about conforming to a local regulation.  Sellers can ship worldwide, and there are regions with legal requirements regarding radio reception.  In some countries radio reception is taxed, or there's a device fee, etc.



If the manufacturer is doing this, then no. On previous Sansa models, SanDisk had different hardware configurations made up at the factory, or particular production runs, if you will that had the approriate firmware installed to conform with these limited markets; case is point being the FM Radio restriction. These units would make it to the end user fresh (and sealed) from the factory, compliant with the local legalitiies.

 

However, if someone (I presume a retailer or 'local' ditribution vendor) is attempting to get a jump on the competition or buying them from somewhere they are not supposed to in order to give themselves an advantage (price or otherwise) and opening up the factory-sealed packages to manipulate the firmware on them to make them 'compliant' then yes, I have a problem with that.

 

Maybe SanDisk has changed the way it handles distribution in different international markets from the way that it used to, but I certainly wouldn't want to buy what I assumed to be a 'new' unit only to find out that someone not factory or manufacturer-authorized had already opened it up and buggered around with it.

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Miikerman
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Registered: ‎12-11-2007
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Re: Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.12

But let's keep in mind, we're only talking applying SanDisk's own firmware in one of its (to-be) variations, to circumvent the radio capability.  I really can't see an issue with that (and also not being forced to wait until a particular configuration might finally arrive in one's country--getting a new gadget and not having to wait for it is nice).  And as a consumer, I like the ability to bring the radio back, at my will.  Of course, one always has to be careful with whom one is buying from, whomever that might be--a return policy is mandatory with all electronics, in my mind. 

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UbTapes
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Registered: ‎08-31-2011
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Re: Sansa Clip Zip Firmware 01.01.12

Hi Tape worm,

Let me explain myself,

I am buying the Sansa direct from Sandisk, or any other legall resller.

I don't have anything against Radio whatsoever. However, since this Sansa Clip has become so popular in our communities thanks to its small size and capabilities evreyone wants to have it. The problem is though that in our communiteis Radio is not allowed , and that is what the customers are requesting from us.

If anyone is requesting it with radio then I have no problem to sell it to them as is.

My issue is mainly concerned to serve my clients better with the better product!