09-04-2011 01:08 AM
I've got to also agree. After using a couple of Clip's and Clip+'s with Rockbox for some time; and now getting a CZ...I do miss all the extra information on the screen. It certainly would be nice if it were brought back. Not a FAIL by any stretch of the imagination as the unit now stands; but would make a nifty little player even better!
09-04-2011 08:48 PM
Well it would be great if someone from sandisk would say that this is definitely going to be fixed. If so I don't need to return it. But I only have 24 days left to do that.
09-04-2011 09:06 PM
What I've heard is, both SanDisk and Audible are on this, and Audible has said, this month.
From all of this, I take it that if it is do-able, it's going to be done. And I don't see any reason why it can't be and won't be. Of course, what do I know--I'm just a consumer.
09-05-2011 02:08 PM
I'm currently on my second rockboxed Clip+ that I mostly use for listening to audiobooks. Rockbox is great from a features perspective, but is far clunkier to use than the stock firmware. Not a problem if I'm sitting someplace, but very inconvenient and potentially dangerous if I'm driving and trying to switch to where I left off in another book. I'd like to go back to the original firmware because of it's simplicity (which sound like it has been enhanced by the new menu customization), but there are 2 things that keep me on rockbox, which if implemented would make me buy whichever model of clip I needed to in order to get them.
09-05-2011 02:58 PM
OK, player now loaded with MP3's, 6.96GB on the internal, 14.8GB on a class 2 16GB card. Still flies through menus, and the refresh time just now was 2:53.6.....two minutes, fifty-three point six seconds. Of course, YMMV with regards to the refresh time, depending on your tagging practices. That is 2,685 songs, average bitrate of the lot is 233kbps.
And then for Clip+.....
OK, same tracks on the Clip+ results in a refresh time of 3:20.8.....three minutes, twenty point eight seconds. I'll let the engineers figure out why the new player would refresh faster.
iPod Touch 5G 32GB, Touch 4G 32GB, Clip Sport 8GB.
Rockbox-> Clip Zip 4GB, iPod Nano 2G 4GB, iPod 5.5G 80GB
2012 Nexus 7 32GB, Asus MeMoPad 8 16+64GB, LG Optimus G Pro, Nokia Lumia 900, Nokia Lumia 520
09-06-2011 08:55 AM - edited 09-06-2011 02:04 PM
The addition of the stopwatch is a nice addon. What would be more useful for runners is an interval timer that beeped while listening to music or podcasts. People pay $20+ for dedicated timers like the Gymboss (http://gymboss.com/). This type of function could easily be embedded in a player. This would make the Clip Zip a must-have player for runners in training.
09-06-2011 10:10 AM
+1 on the lap timer and audio cues for time and such. I'm still rocking along on my Clip+ which has been nearly perfect. Just repaired a broken clip. Two things would make me buy a Clip Zip today:
1) A metal case. The plastic (on the Clip+, at least) is fairly sturdy but I've got to believe that a metal case would be even more robust. The plastic case's potential weakness was a concern when I bought the Clip+ but I didn't think it would really be an issue. Now that I've broken mine I feel much more passionate about clip strength.
2) Audio cues for the stopwatch. A lap timer would be nice and I'd use it if I had one but I think I'd get even more use out of the audio cues. I had an old Phillips mp3 player with a stopwatch feature and a button that read the time when you pushed it. It was awesome. The player was total garbage otherwise but that feature kept me using it for years until it was replaced by the Clip+.
I do not use my Clip+ to its full potential. I'll probably get a Zip sometime soon - even sooner if my clip repair fails - and I don't expect to use it to its full potential either. I use my Clip+ almost exclusively as an exercise mp3 player. It goes running with me and it goes to the gym with me. I don't care about the display because I rarely look at it. All I need are tactile buttons so I can turn it on, advance or repeat a track, or adjust the volume. I do very little else with it. I'm totally sold on the brand and model because it does what I want so well that I really can't imagine getting anything else. Having said that, a Clip model incorporating my two suggested features would be purchased with little regard to price.
09-06-2011 10:37 AM
My headphones have a mic and a button. It would be nice to use the mic for recording and to use the button to control the Clip. On my Palm Pre, a single button press pauses the music, a double press skips to the next track. I know that this might involve a hardware change so I don't have my hopes too high.
Thanks for listening!