Clip Zip Feedback and Feature Request Thread

@mags1230 wrote:


@marvin_martian wrote:

 

 (edit)…the only function the folder browsing would serve is to help out people with tags that are lacking…that seems like a bit of a fail to me then. :dizzy_face:


Folder browsing is good for compilation albums.  I have a folder that contains over 80 songs from more than 20 different artists/groups.   Many of these songs are from albums that I don’t want to put on my player or are just singles.  Without folder nav, I’d have to use playlists which I don’t like to use.

You know, I never thought about compilation albums in that regard…I just scroll through the album list (much easier now with the Zip’s alphabet browsing) , and don’t load the songs I don’t like. Now that you bring up the P-word (playlist),  that reminds me of the one use I have had for folders every once in a while…to make a kind of pseudo-playlist.

Track Info for podcasts.     This was a feature of the Clip + that appears to be missing from the Clip Zip.    For folks that listen to a lot of podcasts, the date is very helpful in a) deciding what to listen to, and b) understanding the context of the discussion in the podcast. 

I think a few things that could be on the new firmware:

-elapsed time and time remaining for songs (maybe you could make it an optional feature if some people don’t want it). This is important for me because I use it for backing tracks when playing guitar and its easier to practice a part when you what time it is.

-how many songs in your current selection, like the old clip (eg. if your listening to an album it would say song 03/12 or if your listening to your whole collection say song 55/600)

And another thing not firmware related;

-maybe the buttons could be a little less sensitive; I was walking with the Clip Zip unlocked in my pocket and it kept on going to the next song or going back to the beginning. having to unlock it and lock it each time i want to change songs is a bit of a pain because sometimes i want to skip through songs.

But apart from that its good so thanks Sansa!

I have two request:  When you were playing a song on the sansa clip+, you had the choice to play all the songs from the artist, for example, it would say, Play all, In the sansa clip zip, It doesn’t have this option, it only says, shuffle list, and then the albums. I wish you could be fixed.

Second, there was an option where you could bring up a menu that reads, “Back to music list.” It doesn’t have this in the zip. If you could fix these two things I’d be happy.  :slight_smile:

@ross2011 wrote:

I have two request:  When you were playing a song on the sansa clip+, you had the choice to play all the songs from the artist, for example, it would say, Play all, In the sansa clip zip, It doesn’t have this option, it only says, shuffle list, and then the albums. I wish you could be fixed.

 

Second, there was an option where you could bring up a menu that reads, “Back to music list.” It doesn’t have this in the zip. If you could fix these two things I’d be happy.  :) 

 

I miss the Play All option as well, Ros2011, and would like to see it come back (it would seem to be easy to do).  But also note that there is a nifty option with the GoList playlist:  you can add an Artist’s entire collection to it at a single time, likewise an entire album at a time, and then play the GoList.  To do this, with the artist or album highlighted on a list, simply press and hold the center select button; and then choose and play the GoList under the Music listing.

As to getting back to the music list, it might just work for you to either press and hold, or press multiple times, the small Go Back button at the 11 o’clock position on the front pad. 

But good to hear that I’m not the only one missing the Play All option.

How often does sansa do Firmwire updates… because this is the first time I’ve ever updated my device?

For newer, actively supported players like the Zip, updates are usually issued every three months (approximately). Discontinued players don’t get updates.

Ok thanks… I know for OS on computers, it’s every month

As one probably would guess, the more recent the player, likely the more frequent the firmware upgrades.

PLEASE!!!

Raise the 8000 song DB Limit at least to the 10000+ song limit on the Fuze+.  This player is capable of supporting a 32GB microSD card for a total 40GB storage.

Since this player is incapable of running Video, then it is a music only player.

I have a mix of 128kps MP3’s ( and greater) and 6700 tracks that fit on less than 27GB. of storage.  The Fuze is only capable of addressing 5537 of them.  Much less than the advertised 8000.

I currently have a two Fuzes, a 4GB backup and 8GB primary player.  I also have a Fuze+ which DOES fit all my content, but the touch controls and laggy UI make it nearly unusable.  And the lack of tactile controls make it completely unusable in the dark.

I do love the Fuze, but I realize that Lithium Ion batteries have a tendancy to discharge even if it is not being used.  As a result, I am always looking for my next player.

The Clip Zip will be it if the DB size increased.  Otherwise, I’ll have to think about a Clip+ rockboxed.

I like Album Art, so I’d prefer the Clip Zip. 

So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE increase the DB size or at the VERY MINIMUM, offer TRUE folder browsing that reads the actual File Allocation Table on the flash memory instead of basing the folder navigation on the DB contents.

p_opus wrote:

 

The Clip Zip will be it if the DB size increased.  Otherwise, I’ll have to think about a Clip+ rockboxed.

 

I like Album Art, so I’d prefer the Clip Zip. 

 

So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE increase the DB size or at the VERY MINIMUM, offer TRUE folder browsing that reads the actual File Allocation Table on the flash memory instead of basing the folder navigation on the DB contents.

 

 

PM sent. :wink:

@aj123 wrote:

I think a few things that could be on the new firmware:

-elapsed time and time remaining for songs (maybe you could make it an optional feature if some people don’t want it). This is important for me because I use it for backing tracks when playing guitar and its easier to practice a part when you what time it is.

-how many songs in your current selection, like the old clip (eg. if your listening to an album it would say song 03/12 or if your listening to your whole collection say song 55/600)

 

I agree with this. I also would like next track information when you click the center button while the current song is playing. I just got my new clip zip last week, and I love it! but these things would make it even better. 

@p_opus wrote:

 

Raise the 8000 song DB Limit at least to the 10000+ song limit on the Fuze+.  This player is capable of supporting a 32GB microSD card for a total 40GB storage.

 

I agree with you on this. If it has been done for the fuze+, it should also be the same for the clip zip. I would guess that the additional memory space needed for it shouldn’t be so great that users without a huge library will complain about it.

 

 

I have a mix of 128kps MP3’s ( and greater) and 6700 tracks that fit on less than 27GB. of storage.  The Fuze is only capable of addressing 5537 of them.  Much less than the advertised 8000.

 

 

When it comes to any advertisement, you know you should always read the fine print. :wink:

 

 

                                   

Playcount support! Please, oh please.

This allows songs to be automatically moved to/from the device after listening. Drag-and-drop content management really isn’t a viable option when the device holds thousands of songs. Also, some indication if the song/audiobook/podcast has been played already. Sometimes I have several episodes of a podcast loaded and, if they don’t have descriptive names, it’s hard to tell which ones I’ve already listened to.

It would be nice if the Zip remembered where in each menu structure you were after power-off. So, for example, if you are listening to podcast x, next time you go into the podcast menu it pre-selects the previously chosen menus as you go through the menu tree.

The lock button should always immediately lock/unlock the device, even after the screen has shut off. Currently, if the screen is dimmed, it first shows the mode so sometimes requires one press (active screen) and sometimes requires two presses (inactive screen.)

Thanks for listening!

I originally bought the fuze when the DB limit was 4000.  They increased it to 8000 with a firmware update.  I never ran into the limit because I had a 16GB card.   When I got the 32GB card, I was able to fit everything I own on the card, and ran into the limit.

Rockbox takes care of that.

I understand that the DB is probably memory resident and there is a limit of that internal memory space.  I work support for products with embedded systems and I realize that somethimes you just can’t raise the limit without adding more internal memory to run the application.  I get it.  Rockbox uses is a file DB so I get that Rockbox doesn’t have this issue.  They just increase the file size

But one thing I have never understood is the inability of the firmware to directly read the File Allocation Table of the Internal Flash Memory and SD Card.  I organize my music already using folders.  Add a filter that only shows supported file types and you are done. 

It doesn’t really matter, however.  I am a big Rockbox fan, and it looks as if the Clip Zip has enough similar with it’s predecssors that Rockbox isn’t far behind.  Also, since I found out how to maintain my Rhapsody integration on fhe Fuze, I think I’ll be picking up the zip as soon as I see Rockbox come up.

I concur with all 3 requests from dcastro

“x/y” display

With podcasts with the Clip+, the display during play of a given podcast would indicate that the episode being played was the x episode of y episodes on the device.    I found that useful to help me understand how many episodes i might have listened to already or how many I had left to listen to.      Certainly a “nice to have” for managing my various  lists of podcasts. 

@bpkengor wrote:

“x/y” display

 

With podcasts with the Clip+, the display during play of a given podcast would indicate that the episode being played was the x episode of y episodes on the device.    I found that useful to help me understand how many episodes i might have listened to already or how many I had left to listen to.      Certainly a “nice to have” for managing my various  lists of podcasts. 

Yep–also good for album play, rather than “flying blind” as to one’s place in an album.

Please bring back the Real Time Spectrum Analyzer Display and the Artist Information that I had on my Clip +.  On the Clip Zip, pushing the center button alternates between the album cover and track information.  This is nice but it is a big step backwards from what I could do with my Clip +.

Paul O.

@tokadap wrote:

Please bring back the Real Time Spectrum Analyzer Display and the Artist Information that I had on my Clip +.  On the Clip Zip, pushing the center button alternates between the album cover and track information.  This is nice but it is a big step backwards from what I could do with my Clip +.

 

Paul O.

It would be nice to have the artist info, but the spectrum analyzer didn’t really serve any purpose but to look pretty.