Can The Clip+ Play in Order Audiobooks WIth More Than 100 Tracks?

I thought this problem only occurred on the Clip Sport and Jam but I have not been able to get my Clip+ to play books with three digit track numbers in order. This seems to be the track order it follows: 001 002 003 004 005 006 007 008 010 009 011 012 013 014 015 016 017 020 021 018 022 019 023 024 025 026 027 030 031 032 033 028 034 029 035 036 037 040 041 042 043 044 045 038 046 039 047 050 051 052 053 054 055 056 057 048 060 049 061 062 063 064 065 066 067 070 071 058 072 059 073 074 075 076 077 068 069 078 079 080 ************. At 078 it starts playing in order, all the way up to the last track . I’ve tested this with 3 audiobooks with up to 164 tracks and two different Clip+s. I’ve tried to fiddle with the filename and title tags, for example making them both the same as the track tag, but the Clip+ keeps to the order above. Is this a well known bug that Sansa refuses to fix? The firmware level is 1.02.18 in both my Clip+s. :angry:

That’s pretty wacky. What happens if you take it out of the Audiobooks folder (and change/blank out the genre tag)? 

You mean this problem is not well known and new to you?  I hope somebody can test themselves and confirm or deny what I wrote.  I don’t know the answer to your question and have no energy for such experimentation.  I simply used a free program to merge and rename files and things seem to work fine with less than 100 tracks per book.

OK I decided to play around again.  I removed the Genre Tag Audiobook and copied and pasted a 249 track book in a single folder into the Music Folder where it plays in order from the Folder menu.  Is that what you were asking?   It plays in order from the Folder menu even if it is in the Audiobooks folder and has the genre tag.   But the wacky order is what you get if you try to play it from the Audiobooks menu which you want to use to get the nice resume function.  I also tried playing it from the Album menu under Music and got the wacky order again.  :confounded:  

Sounds like a bug all right, and since the Clip + is long discontinued and not getting firmware updates, it’s probably always going to be there.

You might try the alternate firmware Rockbox at www.rockbox.org . Or deal with playing the books from Folders.

What about using 2-digit prefixes for chapter files and for track numbers (01-99) for Part1 as book name (album name).

   So, 001 = 01, etc

At chapter 100, just start over at 01 with Part2 as book name .

You can use shareware program “mp3tag” to revise ID3 tags and filenames with alternate numbering schemes.

As far as I know, none of the Sansa mp3 players support Audiobooks or music Albums with more than 99 tracks.   Certainly the Sport and Jam don’t.  Do you know off hand if Rockbox does?  I will look into it.  Thanks for the suggestion.  It only takes me a few minutes to fix up the tags of a book by either merging files or going to multiple volumes so I don’t regard this as a killer issue. The lack of resume when in folder mode, except for simple power off and on’, makes it an undesirable choice.

My guess is, Rockbox does, and it is a logical firmware. ???

Had the same issue. When I named the files in the right order and removed all tags (e.g. with mp3tag) everything worked fine

Sorry I don’t understand.  Are you saying that you can play in order more than 99 tracks when the file names are in alphanumberic order in the File Menu?  I don’t think what you say works in the Book Menu.  You need at least the Album tag and track tags there.  I want to use the Book Menu because it has the nice resume function

@dfeld2005 wrote:

What about using 2-digit prefixes for chapter files and for track numbers (01-99) for Part1 as book name (album name).

   So, 001 = 01, etc

At chapter 100, just start over at 01 with Part2 as book name .

 

You can use shareware program “mp3tag” to revise ID3 tags and filenames with alternate numbering schemes.

BenFranklin, this was my thought as to a workaround as well.  Did you ever experiment and try this?

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

 Kenneth K of Sandisk Support showed me one way to solve the 3 digit problem.:  Number the tracks 001 -  265 (say) to start.  Then erase the leading zeros in the ranges 010 - 017, 020 - 027, 030 - 037, 040 - 047, 050 - 057, 060 - 067, 070 - 077.  Thats all!  Then the whole book then plays in order.  I haven’t the foggiest idea why yet.

Miikerman’s suggestion also works.  Divide the book into sections of 99 or less tracks and give each section a unique Album tag. Then number the tracks of each section from 01 to 99.  Each section will play correctly.  You can leave the file names and title tags alone, even if they contain three digit numbers corresponding to the original track numbering.

I also installed Rockbox on one of my players and am still fooling around with it.  I am sort of turned off by the tiny display font since it will require me to have my reading glasses on if I look at it.   You really have to study the manual to learn how to use Rockbox.  I don’t know yet whether the Database Browser or File Browser is best for an audiobook user but, as an intellectual challenge, I will keep trying to figure it out.  :robotlol:

@benfranklin wrote:

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

 

 Kenneth K of Sandisk Support showed me one way to solve the 3 digit problem.:  Number the tracks 001 -  265 (say) to start.  Then erase the leading zeros in the ranges 010 - 017, 020 - 027, 030 - 037, 040 - 047, 050 - 057, 060 - 067, 070 - 077.  Thats all!  Then the whole book then plays in order.  I haven’t the foggiest idea why yet.

 

Miikerman’s suggestion also works.  Divide the book into sections of 99 or less tracks and give each section a unique Album tag. Then number the tracks of each section from 01 to 99.  Each section will play correctly.  You can leave the file names and title tags alone, even if they contain three digit numbers corresponding to the original track numbering.

 

I also installed Rockbox on one of my players and am still fooling around with it.  I am sort of turned off by the tiny display font since it will require me to have my reading glasses on if I look at it.   You really have to study the manual to learn how to use Rockbox.  I don’t know yet whether the Database Browser or File Browser is best for an audiobook user but, as an intellectual challenge, I will keep trying to figure it out.  :robotlol:

Well, that’s just a bizarre numering solution from SanDisk (but glad they have it!).  Also, note that DFELD2005 mentioned the other solution first.   ???

As to the tiny Rockbox font, no need to suffer it:  go to the Themes page at the site and you’ll find a boatload of other display designs, along with readable fonts–just a joy!   ???

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And thanks, as well, for the follow-up on the means to do the numbering so that it actually works correctly!

I have similar issue. Goes from 1-14, 2-24, 3-32.